7 Massive Misconceptions Many Never Question

See No EvilMakia Freeman, Contributor
Waking Times

Misconceptions take root in our minds very easily. It takes a determined spirit to weed out all the brainwashing and programming we have taken on. Many people never question certain ideas or conceptions they have. They stop at the phrase itself without any further investigation, almost as though the phrase itself has some kind of magic that stops them from examining it. People need to be careful of confusing what is true with what they want to be true. Just because we all want to live in a just world doesn’t mean we actually do live in a just world. Great problems arise when we take our misconceptions and assert them as fact.

Remember what Mohandas Gandhi said, when he was asked what he thought of Western civilization: “I think it would be a very good idea.” With wit and insight, he was clearly pointing out that the West had not yet achieved “civilization”, given that it was still engaged in land and resource theft via colonization, and genocide against active and indigenous peoples. Likewise, how many things in the list below do we proudly hold up as reality, despite the fact we haven’t yet achieved them? Here is a list of 7 massive misconceptions many people possess but have usually never deeply questioned.


Hillary’s tweet about “too big to jail”. Has she looked in the mirror recently? Hard to believe the audacity of these NWO criminals, but then again, they are emotionless psychopaths.

Massive Misconceptions #1: The Rule of Law

The rule of law is a hackneyed phrase. It’s one those giant misconceptions usually trotted out by people intent on proving how richer 1st world nations are more better than poorer 2nd and 3rd world nations, or how no one can supposedly get away with crime because we are all equal before the law. Yes, I would prefer to live in a society where disputes can be resolved without resorting to gang-style violence. However, even nations with the purported rule of law still have deal with gang problems – and they do this by centralizing power all under one roof, claiming a monopoly on violence and calling it “Government”. When you replace lots of smaller gangs with one bigger gang, it is doubtful you have increased your safety or freedom at all; in fact, in many ways, you have decreased it, since you have created a organization with the power to enslave you on a far grander scale.

Remember the words of George Bush Sr. when he first publicly called for a New World Order? He boasted that, We have before us the opportunity to forge for ourselves and for future generations a New World Order. A world where the rule of law – not the law of the jungle – governs the conduct of nations.” He actually used the phrase rule of law. Given his past as a CIA director, oil profiteer, drug runner, serial rapist and mass murderer, how credible are his claims that the rule of law will result in a fair and just society? Recently in her campaign, career criminal Hillary Clinton made reference to “no one too big to jail” in a tweet that backfired badly, given how egregious it is that she is still walking free (and even running for president) after her countless instances of stealing, cheating, lying, bribing, blackmailing and murdering (via the Clinton body count). How can you possibly have the “rule of law” when the ones administering the law are criminals, outlaws, liars and killers?

The fact is that we live in two worlds – one whose members or citizens are punished by not living by the rule of law, and another where the administrators of the law escape punishment because they control the enforcement of the laws. The judicial system is not pure and above the law; it has its own members who cover up crimes and who are involved in the worldwide pedophilic ring (see whistleblowers Fiona Barrett and David Shurter for more on this). Elections are stolen by rigged machines. The entities and corporations supposed to be controlled and constrained by the “rule of law” are the ones writing the laws! Remember how the banks write the laws? Remember how Big Pharma controls the FDA and CDC?

There is one law for the rich, and one law for the rest.

Additionally, as Chinese philosopher Lao-Tzu said, the greater the number of laws and enactments, the more thieves and robbers there will be. Many laws today don’t exist to catch the real criminals, but rather act as traps to enslave innocent and harmless people in victimless crimes, by way of revenue extraction (e.g. speeding fines) or imprisonment (e.g. for possessing a plant like cannabis). The rule of law? What a misconception!

Political authority (of State or Government) is the supposed legitimacy of a group or individual to rule. But is there any justifiable basis for it?

Political authority (of State or Government) is the supposed legitimacy of a group or individual to rule. But is there any justifiable basis for it?

Misconceptions #2: The Political Authority of Government

Another one of those rather large misconceptions carried around by the average person is that government has the unquestionable authority to rule. However, as I explored in the article Getting the Idea of Government & Political Authority Out of Your Mind, when you look at it closely, the government’s supposed authority or mandate evaporates into thin air. There is no producible piece of paper that you signed called a “social contract”; there is no real consent where there is no real way to opt-out; there is no legal or moral justification for a majority to forcibly impose its views and will on a minority; and lastly, government does not deserve a special moral status just because it provides benefits to some, which we may or may not need and want. Careful examination of government shows that its purported political authority is built on a house of sand, and has no solid basis. The truth is that government rules by the barrel of a gun, and its authority is utterly illegitimate.

Misconceptions #3: The Scientific Method

Another phrase that gets thrown around like some 3 word argument winner is “the scientific method”. This is often invoked in defense of criminal or even heinous things and activities like prescription drugging of the population, vaccines, GMOs and geoengineering (to stop the imagined manmade global warming non-phenomenon). In even more extreme cases, we have the deployment of science as a weapon to serve crazy schemes, such as eugenics-based programs of surreptitious sterilization and depopulation. Science itself as a discipline is not to blame for this; the issue is those pushing forward dangerous agendas under the rubric of science. Yet, most people will blindly bow down to the white-coated priests of science without any further investigation.

How can we trust the scientific method when there is such a massive amount of fraudulent scientific research, as exposed by insiders like former Big Pharma directors, doctors, medical journal editors and other experts? How can we trust the much-praised scientific hierarchy of evidence when it is so easy to get around the back door by various means of fraud, whether it be outright omission, distortion by changing data sets and many of the other tricks used to change real science into corporate junk science? How can we trust science when it tells us the vaccines saves more hypothetical lives overall, despite the fact they injure, paralyze and kill real people all the time? The doctors of allopathy or Western Rockefeller medicine once labored under horrendous misconceptions, such as practicing blood-letting as a medical and surgical technique, and advocating the smoking of tobacco as fine for your health (“Doctors smoke camels”…). Was any of this real science? If not, how do we know that today’s science is any better?

Science, although it tries to present itself as a rational force for the advancement of knowledge, often succumbs to the trap of falling into dogma. Science has a hard time distinguishing its facts from its theories. Relativity is a theory. Big Bang is a theory. Maybe good explanations, maybe not, but they will be replaced by better ones as our awareness expands. Science wants its one miracle (e.g. the Big Bang) to explain the world – “just give me one miracle and I’ll explain everything!” It is doubtful whether scientific dogma is any better than religious dogma. Science demands that the world be seen in a certain way – and brands anyone outside of its beliefs as a denier or heretic. Ultimately, how much can we really trust mainstream Western materialistic science when it denies the existence of anything it cannot see and measure? Even Einstein said that “the field is the sole governing agency of the particle.” Consciousness is the very basis of matter and life in the Universe, and yet science in general refuses to even accept its existence …

Collectivism is a dangerous idea. Above are the statues of Marx, Engels and Lenin who played a key role in developing communism.

Collectivism is a dangerous idea. Above are the statues of Marx, Engels and Lenin who played a key role in developing communism.

Misconceptions #4: The Greater Good (Collectivism)

Next of the list of grand misconceptions is the idea of “the greater good” as it is applied to government, where it is known as collectivism. In small groups, this method often works well, and sometimes the “majority rules” approach is the best. However, when you try to translate that to large societies or nations, you run into problems. At first “the greatest good of the greatest number” seems so obvious and beneficial. However, collectivism prioritizes the group over the individual. Socialism, marxism, communism and fascism are all collectivist political ideologies that essentially dictate that all individuals, causes and other loyalties (e.g. family, nation, religion) are subservient to the State. They demand that everyone take part in the “new order” and that if necessary the individual must be sacrificed for the greater good. In extreme collectivist societies, the State is everything and the individual is nothing – an absurd inversion of reality. (As an interesting aside, collectivism has something in common with Satanism here, in that both invert reality: black is white, war is peace and pain is pleasure.)

Collectivism allows for majority rule. A more intelligent and peaceful minority can easily be outvoted and turned upon by an emotional, low-minded majority – which is precisely why the US was set up as republic (with inbuilt projections for individuals) not a democracy. The whole concept of “the greater good” or “the group” is abstract. In reality, there is no such tangible thing as a group. There are only individuals who make up a group. The same goes for the “State”. In reality, there are only people who make up the State. When you elevate the imagined needs of an abstract entity (the “group” or the “State”) above the real needs of its living members, you open the door for all sorts of atrocities.

The truth is that only by respecting and enshrining the individual above all else can we achieve the greater good.

Remember also that 1 of the 3 most chilling conspiracy documents or accountsever published (The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion) proclaim how the elders or controllers will enslave the masses through – you guessed it –collectivism. They actually use this term.

Misconceptions #5: We Are Alone

Another of the grand human misconceptions is that we are all alone in the Universe. There’s no other intelligent life out there. We’re it.

People who cling to this outdated and incredibly limited idea may want to check out the broad scope of contact, abductee and eyewitness testimony of those who have personally encountered ETs (extraterrestrials) and aliens. Some have endured great trauma but lived to tell the story, while others have had positive experiences, and have even formed ongoing relationships with ETs. Similar stories come in from all over the world, from all sorts of people. We have ancient myths, artwork and cultural stories which describe or depict UFOs and ETs. The human race has already been “contacted” and indeed may even have been “seeded” by ETs. It’s time to get past our egocentricity that we are the only intelligent species in the Cosmos, and start opening our minds and hearts to greater possibility.

Misconceptions #6: Coincidence Theory

The terms conspiracy theory and conspiracy theorist were developed by the CIA in the 1960s as a way to counter genuine examination into the JFK assassination. They are weaponized terms which represent a cunning method to discredit truthseekers, truthtellers and investigators. This diversionary scheme has worked well – people often shut down once they hear this phrase and stop thinking critically. These terms have become falsely associated, in popular culture, with madness, craziness and deluded thinking.

Of course, the corollary to the idea of so-called deluded conspiracy theories is that things just happen by chance. Thus, those who deride conspiracy theories, often with little or no investigation, can be labeled coincidence theorists. They adhere to coincidence theory which blindly believes there is no New World Order agenda; events just occur randomly. It is hard for the average person who feels compassion and empathy to understand that the world is run by psychopaths with a deadened conscience and ability to feel. So, the average person can’t quite believe that anyone could be so evil, diabolical, ruthless or organized to be plotting a world takeover, even though the scheme is quite advanced. This inherent bias in most people works to the great advantage of the New World Order manipulators, who are in essence protected from their crimes by widespread disbelief. As Marshall MacLuhan once said, “Only the small secrets need to be protected. The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity.”

Coincidence theory is really a way for people to shield themselves from the ugly truth so they can continue living in denial. Interestingly, it aligns with materialistic and atheistic mainstream science, which insists that life is just a random occurrence and that humanity is nothing special.

Misconceptions #7: Disbelieving the Scope of the Conspiracy

Despite the misconceptions of coincidence theorists, there are positive signs. The world is awakening. There are many people working on different fronts to bring down the control grid and create better, fairer and freer systems. People around the world are actively protesting the corporatocracy, toxic vaccines, GMOs, surveillance, smart meters, geoengineering and more. However, there still remains a fundamental block in the way of a deeper understanding. The last misconception on this list is the biggest one: many people still can’t quite grasp the enormity and extent of the worldwide conspiracy.

All the manifestations of dysfunction in our world today – political corruption, radiation, bioterrorism, false flag events, mind control, pedophilia, Satanism – are all fundamentally connected. They are not random and unconnected events. Think GMOs and geoengineering are unrelated – then why does Monsanto hold patents for aluminum-resistant crops (chemtrails are laden with aluminum)? Think false flag shootings, Big Pharma drugging and mind control are unrelated – then why do these patsy shooters have records of taking prescription drugs? Think pedophilia and Satanism are unrelated – then why do various SRA (Satanic Ritual Abuse) survivors give accounts of being at places like Bohemian Grove and either witnessing or being forced to participate in dark sacrificial rituals?

We need to connect the dots and sense the deeper connection here.

Dig deeper and you will discover a core group of individuals (the New World Order) who are coordinating all of this.

Dig deeper and you will discover it is the same NWO individuals engaging in all of it: political manipulation, propaganda dissemination, geoengineering, mind control, sex trafficking, pedophilia, war, genocide, suppression of free energy technology and the Secret Space Program.

Dig deeper and you will discover these same NWO individuals summoning and channeling dark forces through these rituals – and being overtaken by them.

Dig even deeper and you will discover these dark forces (Archons) – which are non-human, non-organic, non-physical entities – resemble something like AI (Artificial Intelligence). They are totally heartless and without compassion; like a parasite, they are trying to suck dry and destroy their host – you and I and the rest of humanity. As best as we can tell at this point in our research, they are the distortion at the source of all the connected and inter-related unconsciousness or evil in our midst.

Until we grasp the magnitude of the situation, we will be fighting it on isolated fronts, unlikely to be as effective.

Beware of Misconceptions

Misconceptions abound. The faster we can learn to dig beyond a term or phrase, the faster we will learn the truth.

About the Author

Makia Freeman is the editor of The Freedom Articles and senior researcher at ToolsForFreedom.com (FaceBook here), writing on many aspects of truth and freedom, from exposing aspects of the worldwide conspiracy to suggesting solutions for how humanity can create a new system of peace and abundance

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  • Truth, are Archons real?

    • Sandi

      Mythology is often difficult to translate. It’s written in symbolic form in order to appeal to our subconscious rather than our conscious mind. One must study coded language in order to make sense of it.

      I believe the “angels and demons” were of extraterrestrial origins. Others might view them as having spiritual origins. Either way, the “Archons” probably existed.

      • Mythology is just that, a myth, is it not? That would mean that it is not true, or real, would it not?

        • Sandi

          Mythology is a way to pass information across large stretches of time. People forget things like dates, factoids, etc. so the best storytellers found a way to make sure big events were never forgotten.

          The Arthurian Legend, for example, is a mix of past events and future prophecy. Many symbols in the story are related to astronomy and astrology so a person can calculate time from old and new star charts. Merlin’s Red and White Dragon fight is an important event even if we can’t accurately decode it’s true meaning yet.

          Genesis, as mythology, is incredibly symbolic. The visual of the “serpent wrapped around the tree of life” can be compared to the Kundalini of Hindu Mythology or a DNA strand of today.

          There is Truth in all mythology. “Myth” doesn’t mean fiction and shouldn’t be read that way. it’s very ancient history written to stand the test of time.

  • zabelisa

    Rapist???? Where did you get that from? It must have been someone else or something you dreamed of. WOW you are way out of line here Mr. Cook. I would never say this kind of thing to anyone.

    • John Cook

      They are fuking me around, there is a post explaining and apologising, again I’m sorry, I made a mistake.

  • Manna Made

    Good then this should be a good test of what did we learn from this article?

    I would suggest challenging everyone to the idea that Plane (it) Earth is a flat plane and that we are Geocentric not Heliocentric. the evidence is over whelming when you really dig into it. however because it is absolutely the biggest LIE ever told one must deal with Cognitive Dissonance. yes I know it seems hard to believe, that was my initial response to the challenge, but if you research it you will find that there is most definitely merit to the argument. Approach it like you would a good magician trick, “How did he do it”.

    There is one caveat however, be warned..”once you go flat you never go back” LOL, LOL!

    Seriously, it’s flat!

    • John Cook

      So why is it not the same time of day everywhere on your ‘flat earth’?

      • Manna Made

        Watch the films and you’ll get the explanation you seek. I’ll remind you of a comment you directed at someone else. To quote you..”Again you demonstrate you contempt for science. So the simple fact that
        ‘Condemnation Before Investigation is the Height of Ignorance’ is
        worthy of abuse is it Zabelisa?”

        You tend to think that complex subject matter have 10 word answers. No, complex subject matter calls for research. DO THE RESEARCH. You don’t have to believe it, but before you can legitimately TRASH SOMEBODY without looking like a complete idiot, DO THE RESEARCH.

        • John Cook

          “Watch the films and you’ll get the explanation you seek” So you don’t know? You haven’t even thought of that yourself before? It hasn’t crossed your “mind” that if the earth is a plane then when it’s sunset anywhere it must be sunset everywhere. It couldn’t be Night time here while it’s Day time somewhere else – You hadn’t thought of that? And you really think that a physical impossibility will be “explained” to me on some video? You must have a mind like mush.
          “You tend to think that complex subject matter have 10 word answers.” You should be a Mind Reader – That’s Exactly what I think. I think the ‘Truth’ is always, essentially, simple – once you really understand it. And sometimes you can express it with just a few words or even just a few characters like F=MA or E=MC² – or even no words at all like a Zen master might…
          I downloaded your “200 proofs…” but the first ten were enough for me. Starting with the blurb where it stated something like your side was winning in the race to be ‘right’ because it had 200 ‘proofs’ whereas NASA could only muster 10 – so their truth Obviously out-voted NASA ‘Truth’. Using ‘proof’ this way means the author is either a fool or a conman.
          The first ten ‘Proofs’ (all I read) were utter bullshit. Every single one required a childish misunderstanding of the concept and perception of ‘level’ – or other forms of bullshit like the idea that if the earth is round it it should have places where things should run ‘downhill’.
          Or a long river having a huge ‘hump’ that the water has to run over. This in primary school stuff MM, this guy can’t imagine that a ‘flat’ surface is different to a ‘level’ surface, that is the twisting of words much of page one relied on.
          Or his insane idea that if the Earth was round the oceans would somehow and for some reason, never stated, splash around and somehow spill off to somewhere… And this crap is ‘Proof”? It’s so idiotic, I think if it catches on it’s a sign the human race is doomed — MM you’ve got me vary scared for our future. Thinking is our special human talent, like teeth and claws are for a tiger, we rely on our ability to think, but you didn’t get taught and never taught yourself and so you’re fuked.
          I’m also left in awe of the chutpar of the perpetrators – They love to laugh at the ‘stupid goyim’ and they must be having fits at you MM. To create this collection of semi-believable lies and get the brain damaged kids to accept it by good astro-turfing and other marketing is brilliantly evil.
          The victims actually think they are the ‘leaders’ in ‘unveiling the secret conspiracy’ and that we are all brainwashed fools who can’t let themselves see the ‘greatest lie of all’- even the mockery they receive reinforces them to ‘believe’ and be ‘faithful’ even more – it’s very much like a old-fashioned Cult.
          ps If you want me to explain how you have been tricked and fooled in any particular case just reply with the number of your favorite ‘proof’, the one your heart responds too and you Really believe is actually a genuine ‘Proof” and I’ll shatter your sweet little girly heart by tearing it shreds.

  • Dig deeper and find all within yourself. As long as ‘THEY’ are given power, the unified appreciation will be lost to a conflicted drama. Defining what would be an intimate experience through the lens of the judgement of good and evil is to have an ‘experience’ of Experience – that is a virtual spin-off.
    You meet that which is correspondent with your resonance. And you meet it in terms of what you are currently and actively extending as a result of who you are accepting and defining yourself to be in relation to it – whatever and whoever that may uncover to be.

    So yes, you are ‘disturbed’ out from what you took as real – and as your self. But don’t build on fighting or controlling disturbance – embrace and expand perspective in curiosity as to what exactly is going on – without pre-framing it in terms that reinforce a fear or guilt agenda. That is the framing OF disturbance, dissonance and division.

  • zabelisa

    Don’t bother with religion. I am quite happy with scientific explanations and don’t care much about fables.

    • joachim

      That’s OK. I agree Re-Legion is for the simple minded, But Condemnation Before Investigation is the Height of Ignorance, fortunately being uninformed can be cured….. Stupidity is Forever.
      God Bless you anyhow…..

      • zabelisa

        Go take your pill please… your delusion has no limits. Sorry but I don’t need a nanny like you do.

        • John Cook

          Again you demonstrate you contempt for science. So the simple fact that ‘Condemnation Before Investigation is the Height of Ignorance’ is worthy of abuse is it Zabelisa?

          • zabelisa

            Why all the assumptions? I have investigated plenty and found nothing worth my time as the evidence is sketchy at best. What is your background if you don’t mind me asking? I am very curious and I look into everything, Sometimes at length sometimes not depending on what the arguments are based on. Not only I don’t see the point of this (life elsewhere thing) it has zero implications in my daily life. Why even waste time on that you tell me?

          • John Cook

            What assumptions am I making? You keep saying that and I never understand what assumptions you are talking about.
            I’m an inventor and philosopher and artist (sculpture and photography) with a natural ability in science, particularly physics. I’m retired and currently spend my time researching the true history of our race and species and planet because I want to know and understand the truth as opposed to the litany of deliberate and accidental lies that infest ‘official’ history.
            My position on the issue of whether life is exclusive to the Earth among all the incredible trillions of planets in the universe is simply that it is the only open minded opinion that one Can have.
            As far as I can see, except for some form of religious dogma, there is no reason to have any other opinion.
            My opinion does not require any evidence of ‘aliens’ etc since it is just a statement of the obvious. That is, 1/ there is nothing unique about the Earth, 2/ the Universe is unbelievably immense and 3/ life appears irrepressible – given those things I therefore decide that extraterrestrial life probably does exist.
            Even your ‘fallback’ position that it is irrelevant is false. It is of huge potential importance, and, even more so, are the implications of the flawed thinking processes that led to you mocking the author of the article.

          • zabelisa

            Finally found your answer about your background. Sorry my e-mails were piling up and I didn’t get to that one until now. The Earth is unique indeed, Not necessarily better in any way, just unique. The gravity, electromagnetic fields, distance from the Sun, the number of other planets in the same solar system, the temperatures, the chemical composition, yadi yadi yada yes there are so many variables that it is impossible to enumerate them all. You would have to describe to me what you mean by “life”. The compounds needed for that need a very specific environment (oxygen or not). Many of the essential bacteria in our gut live anaerobically -without oxygen.The Universe is enormous of course but the chances of running into something of significant impact is slim to none. That is my opinion. You have absolutely no background in life sciences such as biology, organic chemistry or genetics, so why would I listen to you on life elsewhere? I have watch thousands of documentaries so I can connect some dots in this big cosmic riddle. I tell you one thing, the most fascinating thing is right here on Earth and it’s called human behavior. I see the complex web of interactions and you know what, I still don’t understand why we have to go along with a program that makes no sense and why we have to be under the control of just a few. The only way out of it is to be mindful about how we spent those precious dollars. Yes people need to wake up, but they don’t understand how to go about changing things. Spend your money. time and energy on worthy causes and products that will benefit the whole on the long run. Eat local and organic, go green, educate yourself on proper nutrition, protect the environment, reduce toxic emissions, don’t buy toxic products because it’s cheaper,, etc etc This program doesn’t work and is about to collapse one way or another. Your thinking is as flawed as mine. You are just using different pieces of the puzzle.

    • One day science will discover the richness of information that is encoded within us and opened or triggered by fables.
      Such expansion opens beyond mapping and control in any other way – since it is already perfect communication. But while a virtual mind in ‘control modality’ works within a limited copy, the map works to distort and filter Reality so as to support the illusion of control.
      Relation is substituted for by fixed definitions of contractual interaction. But while that is ‘played out as real’ the real relationship never actually went away.
      Religion was corrupted, adulterated, diluted and substituted for by fig-leaf thinking. The same happened to science. The FORM of something is used out of true context to mean something else – and carry hidden agenda or bias.
      One motivation for this is asserting a sense of self superiority as a result of being “more real” or “standing in truth over and against falsehood” but whatever terms it dresses up in it is

      an expression of a lack of self appreciation. Competition can be fun as a game but often ends in tears.

    • Manna Made

      There’s truth in fables and myths. They are hidden in riddle form. Science is much like a religion as will. Much of what is being sold as FACT is merely theory told enough times that it magically becomes fact.

      BELIEF IS OUR BIGGEST ENEMY. The problem with BELIEF is that what happens when you’re wrong? The EGO does not like to be wrong. Inherent to belief is the EGO’s desire to defend it’s beliefs.

  • John Cook

    I would suggest that the Tribe or their minions are behind virtually all the evils we are being subjected too. Maybe their ‘god’ is actually the Archons but at the least he is a demon and certainly not a high spiritual being.

  • BrianFraser

    “Misconceptions #5: We Are Alone” ( really ?????)

    Actually we ARE alone, although various governments want us to believe otherwise.

    While writing a long article about gravitation and non-local physics, I stumbled into a need to write a segment on “Alien abductions, crop circles, historical encounters, etc.” It is at http://scripturalphysics.org/4v4a/ADVPROP.html#AlienAbductions and I think readers will find it very interesting. Also, for the technical minded, there is a link there for the “nuts-and-bolts” version of UFO Physics.

    • John Cook

      I agree that most modern sightings etc are actually of human origin but historical ones abound, and they are clearly not of human origin.

      • Manna Made

        The question to me is:




        or both?

        I know there are INTER-DIMENSIONAL BEINGS, but I don’t tend to believe there are EXTRATERRITORIAL BEINGS especially from the viewpoint that earth is domed, flat & geocentric.

    • How can you use the term ‘we’ as alone?
      Nothing is alone, but the wish to experience an independent capacity of self-experiencing can run as the belief it is.
      Location is a variable within the total idea of what something is – therefore changing the location is a change of focus – not a result of a ‘moving’ object.

      The physical mind translates everything (translatable) into linear space time terms of experience. That’s its function. But the non physical is not translatable. Everything in physical mind can serve the alignment and integration of that mind in ‘Mind’ or it can be used to serve a segregative sense of self with its disconnected and isolated sense of itself and the struggle for power that is its origin and nature – but not a true foundation.

      Opening to Non Local Consciousness can and often does feel like a violation to the segregated self sense. This will rebalance where balance is sought.

      Wherever a breakthrough of true relational Consciousness occurs, the segregative movement operates to cover, subvert, divert and redefine.

      It is simply up to you to accept the meaning you give it – because it has no meaning in and of itself until your definition identifies meaning for you.

      Everything – the Universe within and without, witnesses to the meaning you accept for yourself. A separate disconnected mind meets a world of separate disconnected things. I don’t imply mere concept meanings painted over, but the template of consciousness by which meanings are felt, experienced and evolved and unfolded.

  • zabelisa

    You started on a good foot but lost me at the alien thing. good luck with that!

    • John Cook

      You are being foolish – I was just thinking today about how there are innumerable examples of utterly impossible constructions all over the world, HUGE stones fitted together with incredible precision. Even Ochams Razor says that alien intervention is the simplest explanation. Unless, like you, one has road-blocks in their thinking process that say ‘aliens are outlawed’, simply not permitted. Sad to have such blinkers on and not even know it.

      • zabelisa

        I happened to believe there were ancient civilizations with much more knowledge then we do. How more simple an explanation can you get?

        • John Cook

          Good explanation except that they showed Zero evidence of that technology except for the isolated few monuments. The impossible things were done with a technology that was light years ahead of ANYTHING else in their cultures. It just doesn’t fit.
          Don’t be fooled by the fallacy of ‘Democratic Reality’ – it’s not majority rules, it only takes a single fact to bring down a false theory and there are innumerable such facts. Every one of which must be false for your faith to be true.
          Besides the theory that we are alone in the immensity of the universe is preposterous – they have found Life irrepressible, it is found almost Everywhere on Earth, from deep under the surface of the Earth to ‘impossibly’ hot volcanic vents spewing poisonous chemicals, why would the universe be different.
          Your view is essentially Religious, a modern variant of the ‘Earth is the Center of the Universe’ theory of primitive Abrahamic religions.

          • zabelisa

            I don’t subscribe to any religion and consider myself an atheist if you must have a label. Just because the universe is immense does not imply anything at all. I think that even if there was something out there, it would be impossible to communicate with them. It’s just a waste of time to ponder this sort of thing in my opinion. But hey, that’s just me. You can fabulate as much as you want. I prefer to study nature and whatever is here on Earth. We don’t even know how the human body works for goodness sake!

          • John Cook

            I see, something can exist as long as it’s comfortable to your tiny mentality. Stay in your (comfortable) box.

          • zabelisa

            I just prefer to explore other areas. What’s wrong with that? I rely on scientific explanations and have seen no evidence of what you are talking about. I know life exists in all kinds of places here on Earth but it does not follow logically that what you are saying is true. People interpret the same things in many ways but language has its limits. Let’s face it we are a bunch of ignorant creatures and just because we have a little bit of technology doesn’t mean we are super intelligent.

          • John Cook

            So you don’t like to admit you live in a self imposed mental box because it’s more comfortable yet every thing you say is more evidence that it is such a box.
            You ‘prefer to explore other areas’ – Therefore things you have not explored are definitely non-existent…
            You’ve seen no evidence – Therefore you shouldn’t look…
            You don’t see the connection between life being endemic to every environment on Earth and the universe being an almost infinitely large collection of environments yet you don’t think life could Possibly exist anywhere else…
            And you admit we are ignorant – and that’s why you Know for sure that life doesn’t exist elsewhere…
            How can you live in such a tiny box?

          • zabelisa

            Why do you put words in my mouth that don’t belong. I explained to you that I am not interested in these matters and the reason for it. We can only explore so many areas and choosing which ones is our birthright. If there is life elsewhere, I don’t see how that helps us living a better life on Earth. I prefer exploring the interactions we have with all other organisms in our daily lives. In other words, I have plenty to look at regarding health and environment within the contexts we have to deal with. Some things we can control, some not. That is just the way it is. We don;t have to like it or hate it. it just is. You are preaching like a first class evangelist. The only people you will reach are the ones that are already convinced or interested in these matters. Your box is just as tiny as mine, just a different one.

          • Manna Made

            Good reply. John Cook right or wrong could use some work on his bedside manner. It seem that John Cook is more concerned about “BEING RIGHT” vs “GETTING IT RIGHT” there is a difference in approach. One is of the ego, the other is about the truth.

          • John Cook

            Again, shut up fool. You have disallowed yourself by being sucked into the ‘flat earth’ psy-op. It was designed to make ‘truthers’ look like fools and people like you have allowed it to succeed.

          • Manna Made

            That quite alright. I have to go with the evidence not the paranoia of being wrong. Don’t care what you or the gooberment thinks.

          • zabelisa

            I concur Manna, well said.

          • John Cook

            Incredible, you actually agree with a person who thinks we live on a ‘flat earth’, wow, and you claim to be scientific.

          • zabelisa

            I don’t believe in flat Earth argument but I know plenty of people who do and think the same as you do about life elsewhere. I am surprised you are not a flat Earther.

          • John Cook

            You insult me. It helps me understand where you are coming from though.

          • zabelisa

            I insult you? Maybe you should get a life then.. on another planet preferably. I have no time for this useless non sense for which I have absolutely zero interest. If that insults you, then you have bigger problems. My mind is such a tiny box that I don’t even have enough room to get upset like you do.

          • John Cook

            Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough. I meant your thinking I would be a ‘flat earther’ was an insult to me. I almost never get upset, you certainly couldn’t do it.
            Have you noticed that you don’t answer anything in my posts that challenge your belief system. That is because you can’t. You just blank it out instead and cover that inability with anger.
            Sad. When reality breaks through and everything you depend upon collapses you will have NO idea what is going on or what to do. You will probably die from lack of even the most basic mental or physical preparations. You don’t even seem to think anything is wrong when we are on the very brink of chaos.
            You are obviously intelligent enough but cripple that intelligence by thinking you know everything instead of seeking out holes in your knowledge. Very typical of your generation. Again that’s so sad.
            Bye Zabelisa.

          • zabelisa

            Why do you think I am angry? I find that interesting in itself. I am just telling you that this kind of information is useless and I have better fish to fry. I don;t have the time to explore every single thing that people believe in. I have to chose what I find worthy of my attention. What is wrong with that? I know we are on the brinks of chaos that is pretty obvious. The monetary system and all the idiots running the show are out of control. There is little we can do and those who are trying are not seeing significant results. The sheer complexity of it all is quite overwhelming so we just find it easier to just distract ourselves in numerous ways. I have a passion for nature and how the body works, so I focus on that in my researches. i look at other things from time to time but just not with the same dedication. You never answered my questions either about your background.. it would probably explain why you are so interested in these ideas. Intelligence is everywhere, i know my physics. Life is a different thing altogether, it can take many forms. Communication is the real challenge. Anyway, like I said, there is no real use of thinking about life elsewhere, it does not have anything to do with what is going on right now on our planet and the fact that we are destroying it. They will not come and save us are they?

          • John Cook

            The only thing I’ll reply to is that I did explain about my background in an extensive thoughtful (and very polite) post – but it was censored And I didn’t keep a copy, can you imagine how frustrated that made me feel?
            There was absolutely no reason for that post being censored but it’s happening more and more lately. It’s always posts where I explain the big picture. They are closing me down.
            Bye Zabelisa – I think we might have been friends.

          • John Cook

            If you are not interested then why did you imply that Makia was a fool for including the existence of alien intelligence in her list, implying that you had superior knowledge?

          • zabelisa

            I never said I had “superior knowledge” you said that.. My knowledge is what it is, I have reviewed the evidence and it is not there as far as I am concerned. I prefer to look elsewhere if you don’t mind. People see what they want to see and it becomes part of their belief system. It is like that for all of us. No one said you have to think the same way I do. A discussion is just that.

          • Manna Made

            No the earth is flat and geocentric

          • John Cook

            Oh go away you idiot.

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