The Nicene Creed – The Birth of Christian Dualism

March 23, 2013 | By | 22 Replies More

Frank Huguenard, Staff Writer
Waking Times

All of modern Christianity is hinged upon a short, eight paragraph document that was crafted three hundred years after the execution of Jesus of Nazareth. This one brief doctrine of belief, or creed, then determined which strain of Christianity, from the dozens of different sects that had sprung up, would prevail to be the correct one. This decision would then set the groundwork to eventually determine which of the hundreds of different volumes of literature regarding the teachings of Christ would then be chosen to be represented in the new Bible. But what if they got it wrong?

The details from the First Ecumenical (worldwide) Council of Nicea are sparse but we do know this much; in 325 A.D., Emperor Constantine gathered together 318 bishops from all over the entire Roman Empire (everywhere except for England) to forge out a single delineation of the new religion. While books such as Dan Brown’s Da Vinci Code suggest that the Bible was crafted at this meeting and Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire at this first meeting, the truth is that those things did occur but over the following fifty year period. Constantine eventually commissioned bishop Eusubius to produce the first assemblage of 50 bibles in 331 and it was Emperor Theodosius on February 27, 380 AD who made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire but these things were all precipitated by this first Council of Nicea, which culminated in a democratic vote on who and what Jesus was.

The fact that Jesus’ divinity was put up to a vote should be enough to trigger alarm bells in anyone with an interest in spirituality and a search for truth but it gets far worse. For starters, most of the bishops in attendance had been brutally maimed and persecuted by the Roman guard for decades and suffered from a wide variety of disfigurements and from mental and emotional traumas. Additionally, over the three hundred years of early Christianity, there were many, many splinter groups as the prepubescent movement had fractured along philosophical and interpretational lines. In a contentious and fiercely argumentative process lasting from May 20th through July 25th, 325 A.D., and ending with threats of banishment out of the empire for those not accepting to vote with the majority, the Nicene Creed was adopted unanimously. To attempt to put this into context, imagine the US Congress debating for 10 weeks the divinity of Christ and eventually putting it up for a vote!! Or better yet, imagine a panel of Jewish Rabbis and Islamic Mullahs gathering together to determine which book, the Koran or the Torah was the correct interpretation of the Godhead and after ten weeks of acrimonious bickering and arguing ending up with a unanimous vote.  This would be preposterous and yet this is basically how the First Council of Nicea culminated.

Of the many divisions in Christianity, the two major factions were the ones headed up by Bishop Athanasius and Bishop Arius, both of Alexandria Egypt. Athanasius’ version of the Nicene ultimately prevailed so we know what his looked like but we can only imagine what Arius’ Creed would have looked like, assuming that his spiritual lineage was based more on the Gnostic side of the early movement. Gnosticism itself was a fairly splintered branch of Christianity that had its roots in The Essenes, Neoplatonism and even Vedanta and may have predated Christ by 600 years.

The core theme to most Gnostic practices is a non-dual view of the universe, in which everything is made up of the same substratum, (consciousness)  and physical reality was seen as essentially an illusion or maya. Because of this, Gnostic Christians focused on spiritual experience and knowledge as the key to liberation or union with God, rather than being centered on beliefs and church rituals.  If we apply an understanding of Gnosticism, we accept that Jesus trained in India and also assume that Arius would have used books like The Gospel of Thomas, The Gospel of Mary and the Gospel of Philip (all Gnostic books discovered in Egypt in 1945), we can extrapolate that Arius’ version of the creed would have looked something like the following:

Athanasius Version

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, light from light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father; through him all things were made.

For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven, was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary and became truly human.

For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father [and the  on], who with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified, who has spoken through the prophets. We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.

We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.

Hypothetical Arius Version

We assume one truth, one existence, one Divinity, from which all of of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen have sprung forth from and from which we are all extensions of.

We assume that Our teacher, Jesus Christ, was the embodiment of God, and who showed us that we are all eternally one with the Father, God from God, light from light, true God from true God, begotten, not made; we are all of one Being with the Father; through him all things were made.

For us and for our liberation Jesus incarnated as a human to teach us that we are eternal beings; that we are not our bodies; that the kingdom of heaven is within us, and for each of us to seek this truth for ourselves, for this truth shall bring liberation.

As a demonstration of these truths, he resurrected 36 hours after being tortured and killed.

He will continue to incarnate again and again to bring this message in times of mankind’s greatest needs.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father, who with the Father is worshiped and glorified, who has spoken about by the teachers. We believe everyone has a right to discover these truths for themselves.

We acknowledge one baptism for the removal of karma. We look for the reincarnation of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Om.

Conclusion

So the question to wonder about is this, if Arius’ interpretations of Christ’s teachings had prevailed 1700 years ago, in what appears to be probably be a much more authentic version of Christianity, then what would the world look like today? Would have murdered 100 million of our own species over the past hundred years, all in the name of God? Would the Vatican be confronted with so much corruption and insanity, including priests molesting young boys in churches around the world?

Furthermore, given the Pope Francis is now heading the papacy, perhaps a deeper question is how long has the Vatican known the truth about how the divinity of Christ was arrogated in 325 and how much longer are they going to continue covering up this abomination? There are eight miles of libraries under the Vatican, concealed from the public.

Certainly there must be full versions of The Gospel of Mary, The Secret Gospel of Mark, The Gospel of Philip and so forth as well as documentation proving the Jesus trained in India and traveled back there after the Crucifixion. Isn’t it time that the Pope issues a public apology for this ongoing deception and opens the doors to this library and posts all the books on the Internet? Above all else, Jesus taught forgiveness, the Vatican too will be forgiven but it needs to come clean first.

About the Author

Frank Huguenard is an author, teacher and documentary film producer, specializing in films on Science and Spirituality. You can see a trailer of his Beyond Imagination Trilogy here:  https://vimeo.com/60887570 and you can see all three of his films, Beyond MeBeyond Belief and Beyond Reason at his website www.beyondmefilm.com.

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  1. dimitri says:

    Best advice I ever got was never to submit to any form of authoritarian spirituality. The NIcene Creed is a perfect expression of just such a spirituality.

  2. alex says:

    * The Gnostic’s at the time,were NOT a splinter group of Christianity but if anything, had(without the bad press) ‘Pagan’ roots as they were were brutally murdered/eradicated by an intentionally incited mob of neo-Christian thugs, at the behest of the priest-class papal ponerology of sociopaths… as they torched the Library of Alexandria (purloining the ‘good stuff’ for the subterranean library of the Vatican (see-John Lash)
    …The Bible is a mendacious amalgamation of diabolically concocted legends & faux miracles such as the ‘Jesus’ myth… primarily written by the Peso brothers, as a deliberately contrived, connived & applied propaganda ‘Grand Illusion’ sorcery- to have power over & subsume the ‘mob’…no small feat considering it would have made Goebbels envious, had he known.
    …In my opinion the Hegelian Dialect is just a new label for an old frontal lobotomy being very much alive & present in the offense/defense logic that creates war-festering mind sets in the first place with the insidious application of the ‘cognitive dissonance’ machination (ie: chewing on two irreconcilable beliefs at the same time-creating Fox News & MSM as a glaring example.
    …Just my 2cents… but I’m still allowed to voice my opinions thus far…whether or not that window closes, is up to ALL of us to turn our attention away from the ‘Religion’paradigm & search out new metaphysical/spiritual vistas in the ubiquitous ‘awakening’that is unfolding, unocculting & being apocalypse’d as we speak.

    • Al D says:

      The Library at Alexandria according to best sources was torched by Muslim revengers in a desire to avenge themselves on the Western “Christian” crusaders, so that’s a major weakening of your argument surely

  3. Victor Gagnon says:

    Great article, love it

  4. Anonymous says:

    Spirituality doesn’t require religion and a dependance on a church, but then who would collect all the tithes?

  5. Rene' Descartes says:

    Exelent Script

  6. Meenakshi says:

    Where do you get the material for all this research? I am impressed. Can you please provide some primary/ secondary sources where such information are lying hidden? Lovely work. Thank you.

    • Frank says:

      I’ve been researching this a long time Meenakshi. The hypothetical Arius Version of the Nicene Creed that I composed is developed from my understanding of Vedanta and the assumption that Jesus trained in India. Most of this information is publicly available from different sources.

      • Pat says:

        “The hypothetical Arius Version of the Nicene Creed that I composed”
        Please SHUT UP and stop spreading pseudo-knowledge. your silent will help much more than your speculations.

  7. Clyde W, Burnham, Ph.D. says:

    Of course there is the biblical admonition that in the last days “strange doctrines” will be taught. This prediction is so true, for the “strange doctrines” being taught are the same ones taught by Rome since 325 A.D. In essence, this augury refers to nothing more than modern-day orthodox Christianity.

  8. Before you get all NT on me you’ve first got to go through the OT. The OT was created by plagiarizing the Sumerians and their tales of the Anunnaki. They STOLE their stories. Tales of Anu, Enki, Enlil, Marduk, Ra, Inanna, and others were stolen, their names were crossed out, and the word “GOD” was substituted in order to create a LIE, that only ONE GOD existed. So the OT is based upon lies. The flood was Enlil. The tower of Babel was Enki. It has all been a pack of lies. Jesus is LIE II, the sequal. A basic truth, you can’t have a “son of god” where no “god” has ever existed. Lies upon lies do not equal truth.

  9. “Would have murdered 100 million of our own species over the past hundred years, all in the name of God?”

    It is the atheistic communists that did that, not Christians.

    • alex says:

      * It was orchestrated by New York ‘banksters’ that happened to be Black Nobility connected/Rothschild clones ie:Ashkenazi-Khazarian-Zionists, at the behest of the Jesuits…ALL roads, still lead to Rome….I’m quite sure they found the enslaving ‘concept’ of God…quite useful.

  10. Frank says:

    Would you care to back that up with real data, or is this just an apologist’s way of attempting to refute this article? Furthermore, would communism have ever even happened had the Nicene Creed not been written the way that it was? It is impossible for us to know this but it is my speculation that no, it would have never developed because communism was a response to a corrupt system.

    We do know this much, the Nicene Creed is the antithesis of what Jesus actually taught and the resultant Catholicism undermined his message. He said “seek the Truth, the Truth will set you free”, he didn’t say “Believe what a bunch of people want you to believe”. The Kingdom of Heaven is within you Jim, learn how to meditate and discover the Truth for yourself.

  11. OvadYah says:

    God must be smiling and shaking His head, looking at this lot! He has really left mankind with an intriguing Riddle to solve!

    We are all running in a circle, kicking up dust, pointing fingers at each other!

    His Prophetic Challenge to the world stands vindicated in the sight of all mankind – to their distress mostly! This Challenge underlies every page and paragraph of the Bible, the Book which HE claims to have inspired (contorted as some minor parts may have been brought about by the tampering of man!)

    The Land of ISRAEL is ALIVE and well! Serving as a model of wisdom and insight to even its enemies! It has withstood the hatred against it thru all TIME! And it is GROWing – SOON TO astound the World when this Challenge really takes shape!

    Now – with that in mind, go and read and pout things together yourself! You can do it either with:
    - hatred and animosity towards Israel and its people, in which case you will find many friends amongst the names and figures of history (and as quoted in this insightful article also), or
    - with respect, interest, awe and even LOVE for Israel, in which case you are bound to JOIN the MIRACLE of His Challenge Prophecy:
    viz. that in the End the entire World will acknowledge that He is God – the God of ISRAEL!!!!

    Blessings on your Way!

  12. Liberty Sol says:

    Why digg????? Jesus is not in the past. He is easily accessible.

  13. david exo says:

    Jesus never existed. Check out ‘Caesar’s Messiah’ by Joseph Atwill:

    http://www.caesarsmessiah.com/

  14. kay says:

    it would be interesting to know what was happening socially when the ‘great conference’ was called by Constantine to reach a definitive line of biblical conclusion. cause and ‘affect’ for what? control, separation of the population, or true enlighten peaceful coexistence. i doubt it is the latter.
    god looks like neptune, christmas is celebrated at the solstice, pagan rituals and symbols were switched and baited for acceptance by masterminds of this small universe for what purpose?
    religion has dictated we humans deny our individuality, surrender our free will and blame anything/anybody for our frailties. religion teaches we separate from our own divinity, the god found within each one of us comes from without not within, our wisdom has been undercut by the seeds of self doubt. be open for judgement, be humble, be a sinner, fit into a label of hierarchy, be lowly, be an open vessel for 300+ yr old words from sources unknown, be anything but knowing the self and god are one.

  15. Rev. Pamela Lanides says:

    While the basic ‘what if’ premise of the article is truly intriguing, there are a lot of mistakes in the article regarding both Gnosticism and Arianism. I think a more scholarly and in-depth research would have been very beneficial to the article.

  16. abinico warez says:

    You don’t need any stupid creeds, bibles, holy water or any other nonsense to know God.

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