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A War in the Heavens: In the Far Reaches of Outer & Inner Space

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Is there a war going on out there in the far reaches of outer and therefore inner space, a War in the Heavens as many have alluded? If there is such a war, what would that mean to us here on planet Earth in terms of our belief systems, our safety and sovereignty?

In 1995 Courtney Brown started the Farsight Institute to teach remote viewing techniques. In the early days of his endeavors, he was very open about what he was doing and what he was ‘seeing’. For a time he posted the most amazing reports on his website that were emerging from his and others remote viewing events. These reports often concerned governments, the ETs, and catastrophic occurrences that in those days would knock-the-socks-off most of us readers. One day such mind blowing accounts stopped cold, and even though we cannot know, many imagined that Courtney had been approached and after some ‘discussion’ was persuaded – like so many others – that it was in the best interest of everyone concerned to curtail the disclosure of such sensitive material.

In 1999 Courtney Brown published a book entitled, COSMIC EXPLORERS: Scientific Remote Viewing, Extraterrestrials, and a Message for Mankind – now out of print – in which he posed the reality of a war in space.

“There is a war in space and beyond. This war has just now reached our borders. What is at stake is not the awakening of a foolish humanity that wants to keep its head buried in the sand, but a future of our children that is free from fear, imprisonment, and possibly genetic slavery or even genocide. We are entering a new stage in a long battle in which we must fight for the survival of our species. We are now living in an age that requires courage above all things. If fortune favors the bold, so must be our destiny.”  [COSMIC EXPLORERS: Scientific Remote Viewing, Extraterrestrials, and a Message for Mankind. Courtney Brown; Dutton, 1999.]

This naturally brings up the question of why extraterrestrials would still be involved in war when they are seemingly so far in advance, at least technologically, of we earthlings? The implication here is that the ETs are at varying levels of evolution. Some are indeed very spiritually advanced, while others are perhaps more Borg-like or operating primarily from the classic reptilian brain. So-called insiders often report that our governments are dealing with over 80 different ET races.

The Myriad Realms

The ancient Sanskrit epic text, The Mahabharata, describes many strange races of beings and their lineages. There are the antigods, the Asuras and within the Asuras are the daityas (genii), the danavas (giants), the dasyus (barbarians), the kalakanjas (stellar spirits), the kalejas (demons of Time), khalins (threshers), nagas (serpents), nivata-kavacas (wearers of impenetrable armor), paulomas (sons of the Sage Pulastya), pisacas (eaters of raw flesh), and the Raksasas (night wanderers). The extensive lineages of these beings are often listed.  [‘The Gods of India’/Alain Danielou]

The concept of other worlds is an accepted part of Hindu metaphysics. The Puranas give rich descriptions of these worlds known as LOKAS. The seven Higher Lokas are Bhur Loka, Bhuvar Loka, Svar Loka, Mahar Loka, Jana Loka, Tapo Loka, and Satya Loka. The seven Lower Lokas are Atalam, Vitalam, Sutalam, Tala-Talam, Rasa-Talam, Maha-Talam, and Patalam. All of these Loka Worlds are often vividly described and this last one, the Patala Loka is a real blood-drinking ghoulish reptilian nightmare.

Are these Loka worlds merely astral realms, or are they actual planetary civilizations? 

The better question is – Is there a difference?

If the universe is a hologram, then all the worlds contained within this particular universe express varying rates of vibratory frequencies and thus dimensional localities.

Just as the duration of time, meaning the manner in which you experience time is a consequence of your consciousness – so is your location also a function of your consciousness. You are where you are, based what you think because your thoughts emit specific frequencies.

Life everywhere is constantly changing!

Around the year 1995, Courtney Brown gave a lecture, which I personally attended. One of the subjects he discussed was that the little Grey aliens had intentionally mutated their own genome and suffered unintended dire consequences. According to Mr. Brown, the Greys had gone through a period of extreme violence, greed, and excess that had wrought terrible destruction in their world. Thus they had made a collective decision to unplug the portion of their DNA that could produce so much ‘evil’ in their holographic matrix. Sadly this had also cut them off from exalted spiritual experiences. Part of their hybridization program with our human genome is to hopefully resurrect the capacity of their emotional bodily forms to experience a wide variety of spiritual states of consciousness.

I naturally found this very interesting because it was evidence that the other races of beings in this universe are also evolving and devolving, changing, moving through the Cycles of Time just as we are here in 3rd dimensional planet Earth.

Not all ETs are alike!

I feel that at this time it is now crucial for us to realize that not all ETs are alike – just as there is a wide spectrum of human behavior, so the ETs are living in their own unique frequency of consciousness and each of these has their own point of view based on their own agenda. Thus what is good for them may not necessarily be good for us as humans.

When the ETs reveal themselves, it will be very tempting for many of us here to deify, idealize, and follow them. Some of them may be offering everything from miracle technologies to space travel to spiritual salvation. We must learn to feel their real intentions and hone our own powers of discernment.

The human species has been entrained for centuries to worship an external deity and passively await salvation. This current Kali Yuga entrainment leaves us very vulnerable to the Darkside ETs. We will bow down and worship just about anything – from movie stars to idols to consumption.

“I dwell in the heart of everyone.”

-Bhagavad Gita, [37.15.15]

“… I, the SELF, dwell in the heart.”

-Uddhava Gita, Dialogue 15. 29

God is within the Heart of each and every man, woman and child. An adamantine connection with the God-within us all will protect mankind from any possible manipulation and deception from any of the pernicious tyrannical ETs. Already there are a myriad of cults emerging around ET transmissions.

Buyer Beware! 

Trust only the God-within you. This is why I have placed the Sanskrit text verses from the Brihadaranyaka Upanishad at the top of my website, Metaphysical Musing. I remember the first time years ago I read this passage, I was completely bewildered by it. I couldn’t imagine what it could mean, and only after years of study and research did it hit me like the proverbial bullet train.

And to this day, [those] who…know the self as I am Brahman [One-ness], become all this universe.

Even the gods [any other dimensional beings] cannot prevent his becoming this, for he has become their Self. …if a man worships another deity thinking: He is one and I am another, he  does not know.
He [who does not know] is like a sacrificial animal to the gods. As many animals serve a man, so does each man serve the gods. Even if one animal is taken away, it causes anguish to the owner; how much more so when many are taken away!

Therefore it is not pleasing to the gods that men should know this [that they are One-ness]. – Brihadaranyaka Upanishad, I.iv.10

What happens metaphysically with this bow-down-worship thing is that you in fact give whatever you worship, in the external illusory hologram, your energy. So whoever worships another – meaning any other being on this earth or from the myriad denizens of the Invisible Realms, gods, angels, or ETs – his energy becomes ‘sacrificial’ food for that entity. The current way of saying this is – “You give your power away!” In fact, literally.

Beneath the illusion of holographic multiplicities…

This entire universe – only one of many others – is a temporal illusory hologram. Beneath the illusion of holographic multiplicities is Oneness, Source, the Immeasurable Immensity, the Immutable Creator. You are a portion of the Unified Field of that Love which is also Divine Power as energy, as the Force.

TAT TWAM ASI – Thou Art That!

Lift up the ‘curtain of each atom’ and you will find your SELF. When you realize your Oneness with That, the God-with that simultaneously dwells within All, you will be amazed at how powerful the Illusion had to be to delude you into the temporal idea of Separation from the One. This power of Illusion is the creative art power of MAYA (Shakti), which allows the Oneness to play in this universe as multiplicity.

When you are connected to the Oneness none can use you and your energy, and make you a sacrificial lamb for their own needs. But as long as you feel that ‘he is one and I another, he knows not’ – meaning when you see another as God and think that you are not, then you know not and are vulnerable.

The only difference between you and the sublimely enlightened ones you worship is that through their own endeavors, they experienced God Realization, they REMEMBERED who they are and know God is within the Heart – and perhaps you do not, yet, but inevitably you will!

The purpose of Life, especially now in the Twilight of the Kali Yuga is to Remember who you are. “This whole universe has come into existence just to carry you to God consciousness.” [Kashmir Shaivite sage & scholar, Swami Lakshmanjoo.]

It is obvious to me that in a War in the Heavens, we human beings simply do not have the technology to fight entities that have the power to move from one dimension into another.

Our sanctuary lies within – in consciousness.

About the Author

V. Susan Ferguson is the author of Inanna Returns, Inanna Hyper-Luminal; her own commentary on the Bhagavad Gita and the Shiva Sutras; and Colony Earth & the Rig Veda. Her website is Metaphysical Musing.


– The Bhagavadgita in the Mahabharata. Translated by J.A.B. van Buitenen. University of Chicago Press, 1981

– The Uddhava Gita, The Final Teaching of Krishna. Translated by Swami Ambikananda Saraswati; 2002, Ulysses Press

– The Gods of India/Hindu Polytheism. Alain Danielou, 1964

– Inner traditions International; 1985, New York

– Swami Lakshmanjoo: Shiva Sutras, The Supreme Awakening, With the Commentary of Kshemaraja, Revealed by Swami Lakshmanjoo, and edited by John Hughes; Universal Shaiva Fellowship, 2002.

– Jaideva Singh: Siva Sutras, The Yoga of Supreme Identity, Text of the Sutras and the Commentary Vimarsini of Kshemaraja Translated into English with Introduction, Notes, Running Exposition, Glossary and Index; Motilal Banarsidass Publishers, Delhi, 1979 and reprints.

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  • There is a long standing war in the dimenssional realms and these entities are in conflict with earthly interests and see us as diposable DNA resource.

    Time to smell the coffee and I applaud you for delving into this vital subject. Most just do not want to go there confront the rational logic that creature that do not use their brain can be treated as creature without brains.

    The DMT reasearchers have now prove we make DMT in our pineal gland when most idiot doctors would even prescribe its removal. Humanity will not fair well in this war with out rejuvenating our atrophied golden glands. We were desgined to run on this hightest fuel and without it are at a great dissabdvantage. To learn an easy technique to kick up your consciousness bandwidth go to:

  • delphinius,

    “…any cosmic laws that say we must not travel BACK in time, only forwards.”

    No, not in my understanding or to my knowledge. Time is a function of Space and only exists within the temporal illusory hologram. Plus the Siddhis (perfections), which are naturally acquired through dedicated meditation, allow you to traverse Time freely. No one would remember their so-called past lives if they did not “travel” back in Time. However, bear in mind that this travel takes place only in consciousness. Perhaps a good way to hold all this is to realize that all Time is actually simultaneous.

    In the Shiva Sutras the Kashmir Shaivites warn against using these Siddhic powers and suggest that they further bind one into the temporal hologram.

    Here’s a bit on the Siddhis:
    Remote viewing is the so-called paranormal ability to see and hear things ‘at a distance’ and is in fact one of the ancient SIDDHIS or mystical powers, which are a part of the teachings in Hinduism.
    The Sanskrit term for remote viewing is SRAVANA DARSHANAM. It gives the ability to hear and see from a distance. The SIDDHIS or mystical powers are a by-product and consequence of perfecting a pure focused meditation.
    In the Sanskrit text The Uddhava Gita, which is found within the Bhagavatha Purana, Krishna explains these SIDDHIS to his disciple Uddhava. Krishna says that these powers are either granted to one by him – meaning Krishna as God – or they flow naturally from the pure GUNA, which is SATTVA.
    In other words, the higher your consciousness becomes and as your entire being evolves – these SIDDHIS come naturally to the aspirant.
    This is very different from one who is involved in magic, or is actively seeking occult powers to make him or herself superior to others and to enhance the small personal ego – which only serves to bind your consciousness deeper into the illusory holographic matrix.
    I would also suggest that the natural evolutionary flow of mystical powers is quite distinct from the tedious repetitive techniques currently used in these schools – based in fear and control – by many governments and their military to spy on possible enemies.
    Other SIDDHIS include:
    * establish contact with the sense of creation
    * enjoy all that is seen and heard, the visible and the invisible
    * direct MAYA (the art of Illusion) according to one’s wish
    * move the body with the swiftness of the mind
    * assume any form desired
    * die according to one’s own will

    There are more.

    The Uddhava Gita: The Final Teaching of Krishna, Translated by Swami Ambikananda Saraswati; Ulysses Press, 2002

  • delphinius

    Hi Susan,

    By way of contrast (!)

    Have you noticed that it takes lifetimes of historians and a legion of political scholars and commentators to describe and analyse polarity consciousness?

    Unity consciousness, the entire secret of existence, on the other hand, takes only three words, “tat tvam asi”, this is you…

    Bell, Bohr, Heisenberg, Schrodinger, Tesla, Einstein… all ardent vedantists. Tesla used sanskrit texts to describe quantum concepts in his academic papers, Shrodinger kept a copy of the BG by his bedside and eventually became a hindu.

    Consider how many scientists and students continue to be influenced by the work of these quantum physicists? The big cosmic joke for latter-day proponents of the superiority of modern science over ancient wisdom is that these brilliant minds all devoted their lives to trying to answer one question: What lies in the sacred space of the heart? They began and ended with the Vedic concept of the entire universe being the vibration of the life force….

    As Einstein said
    “when referring to how god created the universe in Bhagvad Gita everything else seemed superfluous.”

    In 1925, Shrodinger proclaimed

    “… you may suddenly come to see, in a flash, the profound rightness of the basic conviction of Vedanta:
    … knowledge, feeling and choice are essentially eternal and unchangeable and numerically one in all men, nay in all sensitive beings.”

    There is a Hopi prophecy that the humans left on earth decide to leave by meeting in the heart and taking one single breath together, and poof!, they are home.

    If we can reclaim the forgotten knowledge of how to enter the tiny space of our hearts where all possibilities exist in oneness, then we realise our power as True Creators. For polarity consciousness, that’s game over…

    Three little words: “tat tvam asi”, this is you…



    • Cool! is Right!

      delphinius: “Have you noticed that it takes lifetimes of historians and a legion of political scholars and commentators to describe and analyse polarity consciousness?”

      LOL! You said it!
      Yes, and the Schrodinger story I have posted on my website:

      * Quantum Physics, Vedic Thought, and Schrodinger’s Wave Equation
      The Austrian physicist Erwin Schrodinger – of Schrodinger’s Cat fame – ‘devised the wave equation every quantum system must obey’ and represented ‘quantum stuff as a waveform’ [N. Herbert].
      Profoundly influenced by Vedic thought, Schrodinger kept copies of the Sanskrit texts by his bed – the Bhagavad Gita and Upanishads.
      Would modern science have ever embraced quantum physics without Schrodinger’s understanding of Vedic thought?
      Subhash Kak, both a scientist and an Indologist, has written a most interesting article on Schrodinger’s involvement in Vedanta suggesting how modern thought has been influenced by Vedic traditions. Professor Kak tells us that:
      …before he [Schrodinger] created quantum mechanics he expressed his intention to give form to central ideas of Vedanta, which, therefore, has had a role in the birth of quantum mechanics.

      delphinius: “There is a Hopi prophecy that the humans left on earth decide to leave by meeting in the heart and taking one single breath together, and poof!, they are home.”

      Oh, thank you for this one! I love this! Home!
      And as you say, “reclaim the forgotten knowledge of how to enter the tiny space of our hearts … game over…” Yes! Beautiful Thank you for rescuing me from my external world, temporal holographic distraction – meaning fascinating, however diabolically evil currency wars.

      We meet in the Heart!


      • delphinius

        Hi Susan,

        I enjoyed your article on Erwin Schrodinger, thank you!

        Since your knowledge of the Vedas is far greater than mine, if you have a moment, I would be very grateful if you could point me in the direction of any writings on the Vedic Laws of Time. I am trying to find out is there are any cosmic laws that say we must not travel BACK in time, only forwards.

        Many thanks,and much appreciated 🙂


  • Hi delphinius,

    Thank you! Yes, the space in the Heart as humanity’s secret weapon! A brilliant pursuit. Of course, as you know it is no space and all space simultaneously.

    However I confess to being immersed today in rather more mundane thoughts as I have been reading James Rickard’s book “Currency Wars”…

    “Preeminent among these more abstract functions is the lab’s Warfare Analysis Laboratory, one of the leading venues for war games and strategic planning in the country. … It was for this purpose, the conduct of a war game sponsored by the Pentagon, that about sixty experts from the military, intelligence, and academic communities arrived at APL on a rainy morning in the late winter of 2009. … The only weapons allowed would be financial — currencies, stocks, bonds, and derivatives. The Pentagon was about to launch a global financial war using currencies and capital markets instead of ships and planes?”

    Thus am not today adequate to responding properly to your inspiring and wonderful ideas of “the creative potential of this sacred place”. I would love to hear your thoughts – which I always learn from.


    • delphinius

      Hi Susan,

      Ah yes, I can quite see how your immersion in the the games of polarity consciousness, would preclude any thoughts on unity consciousness!

      What apt reading material at a time when the US Govt is locked into a path of economic self-destruction with China chasing at its heels, waving its multi-trillion dollar credit note…

      Of course all capitalism and lately corporatism is based on warfare. Mergers, acquisitions, hostile take overs…most modern wars are fought over energy and currency. People are legally dead persons, our birth certificates merely copies of an entry in a register we are forbidden to see – a Bill of Lading, owned by the Crown. We are traded as assets on the global money markets and accounting deductions in times of war.

      The theatre and the costumes may change, but the game remains the same. Whether its daughters of Tudor kings being traded for empires or drones over Pakistan, of course the pentagon is playing this game. It always has…

      Now for something better….

      • delphiniua: “…immersion in the the games of polarity consciousness, would preclude any thoughts on unity consciousness!”

        The words “preclude any” are too harsh.
        I would say it’s merely a different focus.

        Have a look at this from CounterPunch:

        “…the US government does not have to default on its debt to trigger a panic in the credit markets.  Changing expectations can easily produce the same result. If the holders of US Treasuries (USTs) begin to doubt that the debt ceiling issue will  be resolved, then they’ll sell their bonds prematurely to avoid greater losses.

        “… the looming massacre in shadow banking where USTs are used as collateral to secure short-term loans by the banks so they can increase their leverage by many orders of magnitude.

        “In other words, the banks are using USTs to borrow gobs of money from money markets and financial institutions so they can finance their other dodgy investments, derivatives contracts and ancillary casino-type operations.

        “If there’s a default, the banks will have to come up with more capital for their scams that are leveraged at 40 or 50 to 1.

        “This system wide margin call would trigger a deflationary spiral that would domino through the entire system unless the Fed stepped in and, once again, provided a giant backstop in the form of blank check support.”

        • delphinius,
          I apologize for misspelling your name!

          • delphinius


            Worrieth thee not! I have been known to misspell it myself from time to time…(!) :p

            Om shanti

  • delphinius

    Hi Susan,

    Thanks for another very interesting article. I like your perspective on the inner and outer worlds and agree that the trap is in fighting battles on the fields of our aggressors.

    “Our sanctuary lies within – in consciousness.”

    I have been giving a lot of thought lately to the tiny space in the heart and the cosmic laws of space-time travel according to the vedic texts… I would love to hear your thoughts on the creative potential of this sacred space.

    I believe it to be humanity’s secret weapon, would that we could remember how to use it!

    Om shanti


  • Anonymous

    May all beings be happy!

  • Great article – again Susan. Have you read ‘Prism of Lyra?’ I just finished it – it fits with much of what you have written here… wrote: “according to Mr. Brown, the Greys had gone through a period of extreme violence, greed, and excess that had wrought terrible destruction in their world. Thus they had made a collective decision to unplug the portion of their DNA that could produce so much ‘evil’ in their holographic matrix. Sadly this had also cut them off from exalted spiritual experiences. Part of their hybridization program with our human genome is to hopefully resurrect the capacity of their emotional bodily forms to experience a wide variety of spiritual states of consciousness.” – This is described in the book exactly.

    On another note, the vitriolic comments you seem to attract are interesting are they not? Alice and/or Larry – phew! Fascinating how they can be SO threatened by what you are writing. Must be the truth.
    I would like say Larry, it IS possible to be contributing to helping the general mayhem in the world (doing volunteer work, working to educate on drugs/health issues etc etc) AND STILL encompass this material Susan is sharing. I know because I do. One does not preclude the other. Just because she is writing on a particular topic, doesn’t mean she is not active in those areas you deem important. We live in a pluralistic universe. It’s a pity you couldn’t open your mind a little more and you would see the truth of this. Finally, I’m quite shocked that you preach about the problems in the world – killing, abuse – and yet show such mean-spirited, thinly-veiled anger in your responses to Susan’s excellent writing. How about practice what you preach.

    • Hi Linda,

      Thank you, Lady, for your kind words and most gallant defense.

      Yes, I do remember “Prism of Lyra” which I must have read almost 25 years ago? Gosh time does go by. Thank you for reminding me. Interesting the correlation between Courtney Brown’s remote viewing findings and Lyssa Royal’s information.


  • On a higher note…

    * “Objects and their knowledge are only reflections in the eternal, self-luminous, supreme consciousness, which is the same as the Knower and which alone is Real. We need not doubt that the reflection of all objects should occur simultaneously without reference to time and space (contrary to our experience), because time and space are themselves knowable concepts and are equally reflections.

    ” …your own true nature is the one pure undivided consciousness underlying the restless mind. It is composed of the whole universe in all its diversity.”

    – from Rishi Kumar Mishra: Before the Beginning and after the End, Beyond the Universe of Physics, Rediscovering Ancient Insights; Rupa Publications, New Delhi, 2000, 2011.

  • Larry Peterson

    One would expect a comment from you on that childish level yet my questions go unanswered. Do you feed the hungry? Do you clothe the poor? What exactly are your contribution to help a faltering Government? Have you even volunteered to help the needy? What about the wars-have you come up with anything that might stop the killing of our children? What is your stance on the drug problem? How can we reduce racial tensions? What about child abuse? What about the crime problem? Does your crystal ball say anything about Global Warming? Voyager 1 leaves our known space to go into interstellar space, and it is remarkable that it sends no signals back about you! or picks up the war in Heaven. Perhaps this is do to the fact that you are not worth mentioning. You are certainly not worthy of any more of my time or anybody else that thinks.

    • Well, fine and good Lar!
      Because honestly, for the life of me, I cannot understand why you would even bother to waste you time reading my posts – unless it’s your job to do so, or unless you have absolutely nothing else going on. Have a good day in sunny California!

  • March 17, 2011, the UK Guardian published a report warning that social media is being manipulated.

    Revealed: US spy operation that manipulates social media – Military’s ‘sock puppet’ software creates fake online identities…

    “The US military is developing software that will let it secretly manipulate social media sites by using fake online personas to influence internet conversations and spread pro-American propaganda.

    A Californian corporation has been awarded a contract with United States Central Command (Centcom), which oversees US armed operations in the Middle East and Central Asia, to develop what is described as an “online persona management service” that will allow one US serviceman or woman to control up to 10 separate identities based all over the world.”

    …each fake online persona must have a convincing background, history and supporting details, and that up to 50 US-based controllers should be able to operate false identities from their workstations “without fear of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries”.

  • See, I was right!
    Alice is Larry!

  • Larry Peterson

    V Sue: Stop the nonsense. No one cares about your delusions-I know that they seem real to you-but, we have medicines that can work marvels. You have lost touch with reality-instead are involved in ancient tests that should have been burned years ago for being worthless!
    If they were so great, why didn’t the Ancients make any notable progress in the fields of science? In human rights? in promoting the general welfare of society? There wasn’t any progress-you didn’t get your computer from them or even ways like telephones to communicate-nothing except for you to make money with your translations and books-we had to wait till you came along for what? What is your contribution to what is facing Americans today? What have you DONE? Keep writing this B.S. and let the rest of us concentrate on problems in our country,with our people-you stay in the Heavens_I will not miss you. You have become a cosmic joke while governments shut down!

  • Those of you who are interested in why we may be in the Twilight of the Kali Yuga will find my research here:

  • hp

    Twilight of the Kali yuga?
    Please, please, please Lord, let it be the twilight of Kali yuga.

    Because, for thousands of years recorded and millions before that the yugas remained exactly the same.

    Then, in the late 1890’s one Sri Yukteshwar has a revelation/realization/imagination of smaller time scale yugas.
    Not just smaller, puny human like smaller as opposed to demigod and deva time which is immense almost beyond human comprehension.

    What it does do, however, is make for some pretty convenient time table mixing and matching. Word jugglery and re-interpretations of viable spiritual heritage. Shame on Sri Yukteshwar and those who would shrink these Puranas, etc. down to human pipsqueak, “manageable” neo-Adwaita size.

    Srila Prabhupada says… “The Vedic injunctions are self-authorized, and if some mundane creature adjusts the interpretations of the Vedas, he defies their authority. It is foolish to think of oneself as more intelligent than Śrīla Vyāsadeva. He has already expressed himself in his sūtras, and there is no need of help from personalities of lesser importance. His work, the Vedānta-sūtra, is as dazzling as the midday sun, and when someone tries to give his own interpretations on the self-effulgent sunlike Vedānta-sūtra, he attempts to cover this sun with the cloud of his imagination.”

    (these same people who attempt to deliver to us the Bhagavad Gita, minus Lord Krishna!)

    Vedic Conception of Time

  • DarkStarAz

    “…Or, become food for the reptile race (which is exactly what you surface dwelling humans are – FOOD – and you will be harvested in mass quantities soon)….”

    Seriously, excellent article.
    Seems we are destined to kick around this material universe for about a trillion years or so.So often the Big Duality is thought of as life on earth, death, Absolute Heaven or Absolute Hell. Lately I’ve been thinking as we incarnate up and down along the higher and lower Lokas, spending lifetime after lifetime in material creation (which all realms including the higher astral are material, IMO) we are away from the true heaven. So, the Big Duality is not Heaven and Hell, but incarnation in material creation itself, living apart from Krishna Loka.
    We are currently away from the true heaven, which is the dualistic counterpart to this reality.

  • Thank you, keldoone!

    “And as I understand it the field of Kurekshetra (the battle field of the Mahabharata), is within each of us.”

    Yes, you understand everything beautifully, perfectly.


  • keldoone

    Thank you Susan, nicely written. My wife sometimes calls me an asura… because I on occasion enjoy meat. What is really interesting to me …having read the 4,000 page version of the Mahabharata and several of the Puranas, etc. is that even amongst the various “others”, there were those who made God-Consciousness … much to the dismay of the Gods. Fanciful were those who “burned” the heavens with their puja’s and meditations… such that the gods called on Shiva or Vishnu (or higher?) to quell their “burning”… usually by offering them almost anything they desired. Some times with regret.
    I am reminded (again and again) that everything is happening right on schedule, that I am in charge of myself only and that I am the only person I can change. We are indeed in troubled times (right on schedule) and that I can only help others by helping myself into consciousness… building a bridge as it were…. and not about shouting out “here is a bridge”… but simply and quietly building… through puja and mantra.
    After all there is no one to “take” with me only the path behind (or along side) me… and not that I wish to be the first across the bridge… as seen from the heart there is no bridge, no chasm, no void, only the being.
    And as I understand it the field of Kureksetra(sp?) (the battle field of the Mahabharata), is within each of us.

    • keldoone,
      I was thinking how wonderful of you to have read the entire Mahabharata! Good on you! Isn’t it just the most amazing book ever? So to encourage others who may be interested…

      * The Epic Mahabharata
      The Bhagavad Gita is an integral part of a vast epic, the great Sanskrit poem, The Mahabharata. According to the scholar J.A.B. van Buitenen the Mahabharata has had an immense influence, more than any other text, on Indian civilization. The Mahabharata is not just another tale of the ceaseless human drama, but it is ‘the storehouse of political wisdom, philosophical doctrine, religious doctrines, and a splendid work of literary art’ (M.N. Dutt).
      Indian tradition has accepted Krishna Dvaipayana Vyasa as poet author of the Mahabharata. Krishna means dark in complexion, Dvaipayana refers to his birth in a river islet as dvip means Island, and Vyasa means the compiler of texts. Most scholars agree that the main story was the conscious composition of one poet, or at least a small group of poets. But over time there were many additions to the Mahabharata and therefore versions or what is termed recensions.
      Before paper was introduced in 1000 AD, the Sanskrit texts were written on birch bark in the upper north India and palm leaf in the south (J.A.B. van Buitenen). You can imagine how perishable these manuscripts were and so they were transcribed regularly. With so many versions, the quest for a definitive version had to be undertaken and was finally achieved in 1970 under the direction of scholars at the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute at Pune India.
      With 100,000 couplets, the Mahabharata is the world’s longest poem and the longest literary work. It is several times the length of the Bible and eight times longer than the Iliad and the Odyssey put together. The epic itself says that the Mahabharata is like ‘an ocean which carries out all types of compositions pertaining to all kinds of knowledge’ (M.N. Dutt).
      The dates for the writing of the Mahabharata vary. Van Buitenen gives the origin between the 8th and 9th century BC. Krishna Chaitanya/KK Nair accepts 150 BC as the date for the Bhagavad Gita. M.N. Dutt states that the date of the original events of the Mahabharata is at least 1000 BC, but Indian tradition finds the events of the war near 3100 BC, thus the epic was composed after 3100 BC. 

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  • Alice Lovecraft

    You write yourself, susuan,
    “The human species has been entrained for centuries to worship an external deity and passively await salvation.”

    As you say yourself, susan, you are waiting for the “one” or “god” to “save” you.
    Admit your mistake NOW, and realize for certain, that only YOUR ETERNAL SELF, can save you now.

    Or, become food for the reptile race (which is exactly what you surface dwelling humans are – FOOD – and you will be harvested in mass quantities soon).

    No “one” will come to save you because indeed, you are a very low form of life. Like your “cattle” provide the majority of you with fresh meat!

    Your very young children are like “veal” to the reptilians. They are coveted for food and spiritual substance the most among all of you. and, as a species created as food “you breed like flies”!

    REPENT NOW, and SEEK YOUR SELF-CONTAINED ETERNAL MEMORIES FOR SURVIVAL, susan, or suffer with the rest of your “cattle-like” human race, here on PLANET HELL!

    You existed before this meat-wrapper existence, and you might NOT exist in your true pure energy form after you shed the meat-wrapper of this life, on your present DELUDED, LUNATIC path, susan!

    and you spread your “gutter belief system to others of your kind as a “True-ism”!

    • John Cook

      Nasty and foolish person. Spit your poison elseware.

    • andy

      Whats your last name Alice? Lovecraft? Sounds like it should be hatecalf. So what cult are you from? Cause sounds like you are a doomsday prepper for sure!!

      • Could be our dear friend “Larry” the troll trying another approach?


  • Ooops! My apology.
    Minor correction…should read “the God-within”.

    Lift up the ‘curtain of each atom’ and you will find your SELF. When you realize your Oneness with That, the God-within that simultaneously dwells within All, you will be amazed at how powerful the Illusion had to be to delude you into the temporal idea of Separation from the One. This power of Illusion is the creative art power of MAYA (Shakti), which allows the Oneness to play in this universe as multiplicity.

    We meet in the Heart,

    • zx83b

      Great piece Susan, I love the extensive source list, things to study until your next article!.

      I’m becoming convinced that these ancient texts have been created for us to act as trigger’s or key’s.

      There’s something occurring on another level whilst reading the texts, which fits in very nicely with your concept of multi-level consciousness having written them. Thoth’s emerald tablets are supposed to have trigger information enfolded in them too, although nowhere near as extensive as This body of works!.

      Which makes me doubly appreciative of your efforts propagating them through discussions of selected excerpts.

      Surely every troll and lost soul acquired in this endeavour is a badge of honour for services rendered. 🙂

      • zx83b,
        Thank you!
        Yes, I quite agree that “these ancient texts have been created for us to act as trigger’s or key’s.” They do require a humble highly concentrated dedicated focus, but in my experience so worth it!

        As you have said, “There’s something occurring on another level whilst reading the texts, which fits in very nicely with your concept of multi-level consciousness having written them.”

        Amazing and wonderful! The multi-level consciousness of the ancient Rishis knew how to encode the eternal Wisdom Knowledge for us. Thank you for your deep understanding and consciousness. And yes, sorting the trolls from the lost is a bit perplexing.

        • Anonymous

          Line upon line, precept upon precept … it seems the ancient wisdom of the cosmos, stars and all the heavens there of are tucked away in the energies of Positive Love and the ascension levels of Positive energies attainable frequencies … making understanding mysteries of ancient writings as well as scriptures …only attainable in degree levels of Positive Light consciousness … and what the evil ones can not ascertain … they steal …

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