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	<title>Comments on: Iceland’s Hörður Torfason &#8211; How to Beat the Banksters</title>
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		<title>By: Cee</title>
		<link>http://www.wakingtimes.com/2012/12/11/icelands-hordur-torfason-how-to-beat-the-banksters/#comment-218871</link>
		<dc:creator>Cee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2013 12:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yes... IT DOES START IN OUR HEARTS and with GOD/Jesus too]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes&#8230; IT DOES START IN OUR HEARTS and with GOD/Jesus too</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 17:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Try a Credit Union.
i will always love you ICELAND, the Land of Fire and Ice.]]></description>
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i will always love you ICELAND, the Land of Fire and Ice.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve B</title>
		<link>http://www.wakingtimes.com/2012/12/11/icelands-hordur-torfason-how-to-beat-the-banksters/#comment-122917</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This could be done everywhere. If white people ruled the western countries. But the Jews control the banks. Iceland is a small country and that is how they do it. A large country like the USA it won&#039;t be near as easy. Smaller countries would benefit the world. You couldn&#039;t get people to fight in wars like they do]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This could be done everywhere. If white people ruled the western countries. But the Jews control the banks. Iceland is a small country and that is how they do it. A large country like the USA it won&#8217;t be near as easy. Smaller countries would benefit the world. You couldn&#8217;t get people to fight in wars like they do</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.wakingtimes.com/2012/12/11/icelands-hordur-torfason-how-to-beat-the-banksters/#comment-109136</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ex CIA agent explains how to delete the elite!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLr8ZvgURg0]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ex CIA agent explains how to delete the elite!<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLr8ZvgURg0" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLr8ZvgURg0</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.wakingtimes.com/2012/12/11/icelands-hordur-torfason-how-to-beat-the-banksters/#comment-109133</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 03:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We can beat them in MANY, MANY WAYS!

The QUIET or SILENT Revolution:
Removing your money out of any TBTF Bank is ONE thing that you can do. However, there are many, many other things that we all can do, too!

Here are just a few:

1) BOYCOTT – learn this concept well, and EMPLOY IT – against those enslaving you!
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_26620.cfm
2) THINK for yourself. TURN OFF the IDIOT-BOX (TV) OR THROW IT AWAY! READ! USE YOUR BRAIN MUSCLE!
3) QUESTION all ‘authority’ (Big Business/Government, Big Religion, Big Media, etc.)
http://www.lulu.com/shop/john-hamer/the-falsification-of-history-our-distorted-reality/paperback/product-20051585.html
4) Get out, and/or stay out, of DEBT!
5) USE CASH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. Avoid using credit, debit, and customer loyalty cards, that track your purchases
6) Bank at a local credit union!
7) VOTE WITH YOUR DOLLARS! (What do you support, with your time, energy, attention and money?) (Buy true ORGANIC, &amp; MADE IN USA!)
8) Contact your Representatives on critical issues: such as “END THE FED!”
9) Re-read the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. It isn’t about hunting. It’s about government tyranny, and protecting yourself from it.  THAT is why BIG GOVERNMENT wants to take away your guns!
10)Buy (products) Made in U.S.A. IF you are still buying Christmas cards, for example, that were Made in China – at WalMart – then, you are part of America’s problem!
11)Invest in precious metals, primarily SILVER (and gold) bullion
http://libertycpm.com/silver/
12)Buy ORGANIC food! Support your local Organic food store or Co-op! Support the true HEROES of organic food production (on the right side, of the following poster: http://www.cornucopia.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/prop37-poster3.jpeg)
13)Start your own garden using NON-GMO, non-hybrid seeds!
http://www.mypatriotsupply.com/
14)Pray or meditate – reduce your stress! Stress weakens your immune system, which opens your body to attack by free radicals, viruses
15)Read a book, you know, an actual book! Open your mind!
http://www.lulu.com/shop/john-hamer/the-falsification-of-history-our-distorted-reality/paperback/product-20051585.html
16)Exercise your brain muscle!
17)Listen to soothing classical, jazz, ambient or other music you thoroughly enjoy!
18)CUT BACK ON OIL AND GAS CONSUMPTION!
19)Take a high-quality daily multi-vitamin

EXPAND THIS LIST AND SHARE IT WITH EVERYONE YOU KNOW!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can beat them in MANY, MANY WAYS!</p>
<p>The QUIET or SILENT Revolution:<br />
Removing your money out of any TBTF Bank is ONE thing that you can do. However, there are many, many other things that we all can do, too!</p>
<p>Here are just a few:</p>
<p>1) BOYCOTT – learn this concept well, and EMPLOY IT – against those enslaving you!<br />
<a href="http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_26620.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_26620.cfm</a><br />
2) THINK for yourself. TURN OFF the IDIOT-BOX (TV) OR THROW IT AWAY! READ! USE YOUR BRAIN MUSCLE!<br />
3) QUESTION all ‘authority’ (Big Business/Government, Big Religion, Big Media, etc.)<br />
<a href="http://www.lulu.com/shop/john-hamer/the-falsification-of-history-our-distorted-reality/paperback/product-20051585.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lulu.com/shop/john-hamer/the-falsification-of-history-our-distorted-reality/paperback/product-20051585.html</a><br />
4) Get out, and/or stay out, of DEBT!<br />
5) USE CASH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. Avoid using credit, debit, and customer loyalty cards, that track your purchases<br />
6) Bank at a local credit union!<br />
7) VOTE WITH YOUR DOLLARS! (What do you support, with your time, energy, attention and money?) (Buy true ORGANIC, &amp; MADE IN USA!)<br />
8) Contact your Representatives on critical issues: such as “END THE FED!”<br />
9) Re-read the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. It isn’t about hunting. It’s about government tyranny, and protecting yourself from it.  THAT is why BIG GOVERNMENT wants to take away your guns!<br />
10)Buy (products) Made in U.S.A. IF you are still buying Christmas cards, for example, that were Made in China – at WalMart – then, you are part of America’s problem!<br />
11)Invest in precious metals, primarily SILVER (and gold) bullion<br />
<a href="http://libertycpm.com/silver/" rel="nofollow">http://libertycpm.com/silver/</a><br />
12)Buy ORGANIC food! Support your local Organic food store or Co-op! Support the true HEROES of organic food production (on the right side, of the following poster: <a href="http://www.cornucopia.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/prop37-poster3.jpeg" rel="nofollow">http://www.cornucopia.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/prop37-poster3.jpeg</a>)<br />
13)Start your own garden using NON-GMO, non-hybrid seeds!<br />
<a href="http://www.mypatriotsupply.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mypatriotsupply.com/</a><br />
14)Pray or meditate – reduce your stress! Stress weakens your immune system, which opens your body to attack by free radicals, viruses<br />
15)Read a book, you know, an actual book! Open your mind!<br />
<a href="http://www.lulu.com/shop/john-hamer/the-falsification-of-history-our-distorted-reality/paperback/product-20051585.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lulu.com/shop/john-hamer/the-falsification-of-history-our-distorted-reality/paperback/product-20051585.html</a><br />
16)Exercise your brain muscle!<br />
17)Listen to soothing classical, jazz, ambient or other music you thoroughly enjoy!<br />
18)CUT BACK ON OIL AND GAS CONSUMPTION!<br />
19)Take a high-quality daily multi-vitamin</p>
<p>EXPAND THIS LIST AND SHARE IT WITH EVERYONE YOU KNOW!</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas</title>
		<link>http://www.wakingtimes.com/2012/12/11/icelands-hordur-torfason-how-to-beat-the-banksters/#comment-108252</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 01:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure what equality is being discussed. Equal opportunity, or equal outcomes?

The result in Iceland could happen here, if: our &quot;representatives&quot; were beholden to us, not bankers and other special (read: we want something we are sooooo not entitled to, and we want someone else to pay for it). A simple law, as opposed to 2 k page missives that mean nothing, that balances budgets each year, caps taxes at a reasonable rate, applied equally to all in the country, equal justice... The list would be long. End govt subsidies of everything. Force public colleges to cut tuition 75% immediately (since they are largely funded with public money, the can always choose not to accept it and keep prices high). Simply living within our means would lead to so,much prosperity for everyone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what equality is being discussed. Equal opportunity, or equal outcomes?</p>
<p>The result in Iceland could happen here, if: our &#8220;representatives&#8221; were beholden to us, not bankers and other special (read: we want something we are sooooo not entitled to, and we want someone else to pay for it). A simple law, as opposed to 2 k page missives that mean nothing, that balances budgets each year, caps taxes at a reasonable rate, applied equally to all in the country, equal justice&#8230; The list would be long. End govt subsidies of everything. Force public colleges to cut tuition 75% immediately (since they are largely funded with public money, the can always choose not to accept it and keep prices high). Simply living within our means would lead to so,much prosperity for everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: B J Street</title>
		<link>http://www.wakingtimes.com/2012/12/11/icelands-hordur-torfason-how-to-beat-the-banksters/#comment-106889</link>
		<dc:creator>B J Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only real revolution is Equality, but Civilization is built on the Hierarchy of Rewards, and there is still just enough normalcy around to keep populations complacent.  Economic equality is Sufficiency, the realization that the balance between blind ambition/greed and abject poverty is a Reasonable Share of resources freely available as the common-ground of a culture of benign co-existence, not craving the so-called rewards of compliance with an economic exploitation that puts a price on all human activity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only real revolution is Equality, but Civilization is built on the Hierarchy of Rewards, and there is still just enough normalcy around to keep populations complacent.  Economic equality is Sufficiency, the realization that the balance between blind ambition/greed and abject poverty is a Reasonable Share of resources freely available as the common-ground of a culture of benign co-existence, not craving the so-called rewards of compliance with an economic exploitation that puts a price on all human activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.wakingtimes.com/2012/12/11/icelands-hordur-torfason-how-to-beat-the-banksters/#comment-106773</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[to Bill - A good healthy nationalism in not fascism, which is an unholy alliance between capitalists, military and state.  Fascism cares no more about the peoples welfare and happiness than does tin-pot so-called marxists.
Note that the Icelandic recovery had NOTHING to do with fascism.
Fascists will tell you of course that everything they do is &#039;for the nation&#039; while they eliminate free expression, spy on citizens, and send you off to foreign wars.
What&#039;s needed are good and moral citizens in all levels of society.
The revolution starts in our hearts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Bill &#8211; A good healthy nationalism in not fascism, which is an unholy alliance between capitalists, military and state.  Fascism cares no more about the peoples welfare and happiness than does tin-pot so-called marxists.<br />
Note that the Icelandic recovery had NOTHING to do with fascism.<br />
Fascists will tell you of course that everything they do is &#8216;for the nation&#8217; while they eliminate free expression, spy on citizens, and send you off to foreign wars.<br />
What&#8217;s needed are good and moral citizens in all levels of society.<br />
The revolution starts in our hearts.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 18:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fascism is no answer. Note that Iceland&#039;s recovery had nothing to do with fascism.
Fascism is an unholy alliance between capital and government - the people&#039;s welfare and happiness are no more considered in fascism than in capitalism.
What&#039;s needed are good, moral people at all levels of society. The change begins in our hearts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascism is no answer. Note that Iceland&#8217;s recovery had nothing to do with fascism.<br />
Fascism is an unholy alliance between capital and government &#8211; the people&#8217;s welfare and happiness are no more considered in fascism than in capitalism.<br />
What&#8217;s needed are good, moral people at all levels of society. The change begins in our hearts.</p>
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		<title>By: G Street</title>
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		<dc:creator>G Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Several important differences between us and Iceland:

1) Geography. Our country is too big for masses of people to remain outside the seat of government until it meets their demands. If you live in California and have a family to care for, you can&#039;t afford to go get arrested in Washington.

2) Media. Related to geography, we rely on communication channels that were long ago co-opted. The most extreme example of this is the &quot;fiscal cliff&quot; in which two  absurd positions have an ersatz battle over outcomes that heads-or-tails provide no solution, no relief to the people. Instead of representative government, the mealy-mouthed traitors of Washington simply proclaim that our interests weren&#039;t on their table.

3) Corruption. Related to the above, the central problem is that money has replaced citizenship. The State is no longer expected to function for the people. It auctions us off daily. Even the Supreme Court is unable to admit that if money is speech - more accurately the power to legislate - then people without money must do without. In other words, the Court has upheld (written, really) law that limits the speech of ordinary people. That otherwise bright people in Washington can convince themselves that they are not the problem is central to the corruption. Their lack of critical reflection lets them ignore that not only did they facilitate financial crime, they also weakened the rule of law. The common term for this is &quot;corruption.&quot;

In Iceland the people took their message to their government and demanded it be subordinate to their will. We have lost our identity (not a coincidence), lost our ability to speak on our own behalf, and lost our government to profiteers and internationalists. How can we win the battle won in Iceland when we don&#039;t have the tools of democracy?

Giving up is not an option. So we should also ridicule those who accept the corrupt state as normal, challenge the media at every turn - maybe more anchors will resign on air. Wearing some recognizable symbol would help us recognize our strength in numbers. Voting both party&#039;s scum from office, boycotts, strikes, protests... it seems against overwhelming odds that we try to gain a critical mass that cannot be ignored, when, unfortunately it seems it can always be ignored. If all else fails they can start another war.

We need 1) money out of government, 2) response-able media, and 3) an end to financial tyranny. This would create an economy that works for all. The one thing we can do is not let them distract us from accomplishing real and lasting changes like they did in Iceland.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several important differences between us and Iceland:</p>
<p>1) Geography. Our country is too big for masses of people to remain outside the seat of government until it meets their demands. If you live in California and have a family to care for, you can&#8217;t afford to go get arrested in Washington.</p>
<p>2) Media. Related to geography, we rely on communication channels that were long ago co-opted. The most extreme example of this is the &#8220;fiscal cliff&#8221; in which two  absurd positions have an ersatz battle over outcomes that heads-or-tails provide no solution, no relief to the people. Instead of representative government, the mealy-mouthed traitors of Washington simply proclaim that our interests weren&#8217;t on their table.</p>
<p>3) Corruption. Related to the above, the central problem is that money has replaced citizenship. The State is no longer expected to function for the people. It auctions us off daily. Even the Supreme Court is unable to admit that if money is speech &#8211; more accurately the power to legislate &#8211; then people without money must do without. In other words, the Court has upheld (written, really) law that limits the speech of ordinary people. That otherwise bright people in Washington can convince themselves that they are not the problem is central to the corruption. Their lack of critical reflection lets them ignore that not only did they facilitate financial crime, they also weakened the rule of law. The common term for this is &#8220;corruption.&#8221;</p>
<p>In Iceland the people took their message to their government and demanded it be subordinate to their will. We have lost our identity (not a coincidence), lost our ability to speak on our own behalf, and lost our government to profiteers and internationalists. How can we win the battle won in Iceland when we don&#8217;t have the tools of democracy?</p>
<p>Giving up is not an option. So we should also ridicule those who accept the corrupt state as normal, challenge the media at every turn &#8211; maybe more anchors will resign on air. Wearing some recognizable symbol would help us recognize our strength in numbers. Voting both party&#8217;s scum from office, boycotts, strikes, protests&#8230; it seems against overwhelming odds that we try to gain a critical mass that cannot be ignored, when, unfortunately it seems it can always be ignored. If all else fails they can start another war.</p>
<p>We need 1) money out of government, 2) response-able media, and 3) an end to financial tyranny. This would create an economy that works for all. The one thing we can do is not let them distract us from accomplishing real and lasting changes like they did in Iceland.</p>
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