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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Proof of Heaven&#8217; Documents Existence of Afterlife, Multiverse, Intelligent Life Beyond Earth, Multidimensional Realities</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 14:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen ....hell is an evil concept and the product of ignorance and hate ... Dr A never calls the realm of dimness he experienced Hell.

Read the book,  don&#039;t read into the book Mike. Maybe one day you will grow beyond Judeo Christian evil.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen &#8230;.hell is an evil concept and the product of ignorance and hate &#8230; Dr A never calls the realm of dimness he experienced Hell.</p>
<p>Read the book,  don&#8217;t read into the book Mike. Maybe one day you will grow beyond Judeo Christian evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 14:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And note that Eben did not have Faith in &quot;Jesus as God&quot; which according to Judeo-Christianity is necessary to escape &quot;hell&quot;. He doesn&#039;t say he was rescued from Hell based on his being judged acceptable in fact he returned to that dark place during his NDE and was taken out of it several times. Mike is reading Hell theology into his experience and making the same mistake priests have made for ages. Maybe that&#039;s a sure sign Mike needs a little more spiritual tutoring. Maybe the more rotten of us in this life will just learn more next time or in the new realm. That seems more loving but oh we&#039;ll religion dies hard. Mike, please don&#039;t turn into a Bible thumper or you will  lose all credibility with me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And note that Eben did not have Faith in &#8220;Jesus as God&#8221; which according to Judeo-Christianity is necessary to escape &#8220;hell&#8221;. He doesn&#8217;t say he was rescued from Hell based on his being judged acceptable in fact he returned to that dark place during his NDE and was taken out of it several times. Mike is reading Hell theology into his experience and making the same mistake priests have made for ages. Maybe that&#8217;s a sure sign Mike needs a little more spiritual tutoring. Maybe the more rotten of us in this life will just learn more next time or in the new realm. That seems more loving but oh we&#8217;ll religion dies hard. Mike, please don&#8217;t turn into a Bible thumper or you will  lose all credibility with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Carson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 23:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jason ... I just finished this book. A nice read for those that still do not believe and need a “qualified scientist, neuro surgen” to tell the story to be believable then … its a good book. However as an NDE’r myself there are a lot of much better books out there. 

As I recently wrote to Rupert Sheldrake regarding his newest book “Science Set Free – 10 Paths To new Discovery” 

(In part)
 And finally, and in my not so humble opinion … you should now cease trying to change the ever persistent memetic programs of defending librarians and seek to find, inspire and empower those already in your library of curiosita. The evolutionary call of humanity’s morphic field is dependent upon it.
 
In conclusion …
 
Wisdom never tries to teach a pig how to sing.
 It a waste of your time …
 and frustrates the hell out of the pig.
 
In other words “let the dead bury the dead” … “don’t cast your pearls before swine’s” … let the naysayers be content in there caves of shadows and only spend time, effort and hope on the next generation of ‘truth seekers.” Amen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason &#8230; I just finished this book. A nice read for those that still do not believe and need a “qualified scientist, neuro surgen” to tell the story to be believable then … its a good book. However as an NDE’r myself there are a lot of much better books out there. </p>
<p>As I recently wrote to Rupert Sheldrake regarding his newest book “Science Set Free – 10 Paths To new Discovery” </p>
<p>(In part)<br />
 And finally, and in my not so humble opinion … you should now cease trying to change the ever persistent memetic programs of defending librarians and seek to find, inspire and empower those already in your library of curiosita. The evolutionary call of humanity’s morphic field is dependent upon it.</p>
<p>In conclusion …</p>
<p>Wisdom never tries to teach a pig how to sing.<br />
 It a waste of your time …<br />
 and frustrates the hell out of the pig.</p>
<p>In other words “let the dead bury the dead” … “don’t cast your pearls before swine’s” … let the naysayers be content in there caves of shadows and only spend time, effort and hope on the next generation of ‘truth seekers.” Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Carson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 23:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just finishe this book.  A nice read for those that still do not believe and need a &quot;qualified scientist, neuro surgen&quot; to tell the story to be believable then ... its a good book.  However as an NDE&#039;r myself there are a lot of much better books out there.  

As I recently wrote to Rupert Sheldrake regarding his newest book “Science Set Free – 10 Paths To new Discovery” 

(In part)
And finally, and in my not so humble opinion … you should now cease trying to change the ever persistent memetic programs of defending librarians and seek to find, inspire and empower those already in your library of curiosita. The evolutionary call of humanity’s morphic field is dependent upon it.

In conclusion …


Wisdom never tries to teach a pig how to sing. 
It a waste of your time …
and frustrates the hell out of the pig.

In other words “let the dead bury the dead” … “don’t cast your pearls before swine’s” … let the naysayers be content in there caves of shadows and only spend time, effort and hope on the next generation of ‘truth seekers.”  Amen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just finishe this book.  A nice read for those that still do not believe and need a &#8220;qualified scientist, neuro surgen&#8221; to tell the story to be believable then &#8230; its a good book.  However as an NDE&#8217;r myself there are a lot of much better books out there.  </p>
<p>As I recently wrote to Rupert Sheldrake regarding his newest book “Science Set Free – 10 Paths To new Discovery” </p>
<p>(In part)<br />
And finally, and in my not so humble opinion … you should now cease trying to change the ever persistent memetic programs of defending librarians and seek to find, inspire and empower those already in your library of curiosita. The evolutionary call of humanity’s morphic field is dependent upon it.</p>
<p>In conclusion …</p>
<p>Wisdom never tries to teach a pig how to sing.<br />
It a waste of your time …<br />
and frustrates the hell out of the pig.</p>
<p>In other words “let the dead bury the dead” … “don’t cast your pearls before swine’s” … let the naysayers be content in there caves of shadows and only spend time, effort and hope on the next generation of ‘truth seekers.”  Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: mothman777</title>
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		<dc:creator>mothman777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 05:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Correction to typo above; I meant &#039;arranged in several successive levels&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction to typo above; I meant &#8216;arranged in several successive levels&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: mothman777</title>
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		<dc:creator>mothman777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2012 05:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps you may not be very familiar with vedic philosophy, and I know it is a subject that only a very few in the West choose to become conversant with, so to attempt to evaluate the concepts I have put here with a mind more steeped in Biblical tradition for instance, if you are of Christian background that is, might be somewhat difficult. I will attempt to present my
thoughts in a manner which I hope you will find more assimilable.
 
The entire thing about the spiritual world of Vaikuntha is that you have total freedom there, so you don&#039;t even have an external regulatory body there. By an external regulatory body I mean a physical body that gives us access to the range of sensual enjoyments we require here, without those enjoyments impinging on the freedoms of others so much. 

So there are 8,400,000 different species of bodies we can incarnate in whilst we travel throughout this material universe in search of pleasure, with 400,000 of these being human species according to Hindu, Vaishnava, Sikh, Buddhist and Jain philosophical understanding, as given by the incarnations of Krishna and yogis who travel through this universe from the spiritual world. 

The external material bodies, that we incarnate in here in this material universe, confine us all to some degree here due to the predatory and exploiting natures that each of the fallen souls has. This nature requires some form of limitation to be placed on the excesses of people&#039;s more base desires. When souls in Vaikuntha act, voluntarily and sensibly in the interest of the common good, then although all possibilities are available, then to remain in the friendly association of Krishna is simply the obvious thing to do, and they gladly choose it; they are not forced. 

There is so much freedom in fact, that souls are entirely free to do exactly what they want, but there are consequences, and when a soul, with their own free will, chooses to turn away from Krishna, who is like the sunshine is to the eyes, they lose their own self-knowledge as a part of the cosmic Godhead. 

Krishna enables them to know themselves and their proper function within the cosmic body of Krishna, there being no other person with that quality in all of existence, as the spatial magnitude of Krishna is cosmic in size, whereas we are atomic in size, needing His substance surrounding us to provide our proper completeness of self-awareness.

So when a soul turns away from Krishna, as the Vaikuntha world itself is Krishna, then they choose to leave that dimension and go elsewhere, in that state of self- delusion. 

Due to the desires born of their own free choice, they travel through all the worlds doing whatever they wish, and bodies are provided for them by Krishna to help them enjoy as much as they possibly can, as we are all parts of Him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you may not be very familiar with vedic philosophy, and I know it is a subject that only a very few in the West choose to become conversant with, so to attempt to evaluate the concepts I have put here with a mind more steeped in Biblical tradition for instance, if you are of Christian background that is, might be somewhat difficult. I will attempt to present my<br />
thoughts in a manner which I hope you will find more assimilable.</p>
<p>The entire thing about the spiritual world of Vaikuntha is that you have total freedom there, so you don&#8217;t even have an external regulatory body there. By an external regulatory body I mean a physical body that gives us access to the range of sensual enjoyments we require here, without those enjoyments impinging on the freedoms of others so much. </p>
<p>So there are 8,400,000 different species of bodies we can incarnate in whilst we travel throughout this material universe in search of pleasure, with 400,000 of these being human species according to Hindu, Vaishnava, Sikh, Buddhist and Jain philosophical understanding, as given by the incarnations of Krishna and yogis who travel through this universe from the spiritual world. </p>
<p>The external material bodies, that we incarnate in here in this material universe, confine us all to some degree here due to the predatory and exploiting natures that each of the fallen souls has. This nature requires some form of limitation to be placed on the excesses of people&#8217;s more base desires. When souls in Vaikuntha act, voluntarily and sensibly in the interest of the common good, then although all possibilities are available, then to remain in the friendly association of Krishna is simply the obvious thing to do, and they gladly choose it; they are not forced. </p>
<p>There is so much freedom in fact, that souls are entirely free to do exactly what they want, but there are consequences, and when a soul, with their own free will, chooses to turn away from Krishna, who is like the sunshine is to the eyes, they lose their own self-knowledge as a part of the cosmic Godhead. </p>
<p>Krishna enables them to know themselves and their proper function within the cosmic body of Krishna, there being no other person with that quality in all of existence, as the spatial magnitude of Krishna is cosmic in size, whereas we are atomic in size, needing His substance surrounding us to provide our proper completeness of self-awareness.</p>
<p>So when a soul turns away from Krishna, as the Vaikuntha world itself is Krishna, then they choose to leave that dimension and go elsewhere, in that state of self- delusion. </p>
<p>Due to the desires born of their own free choice, they travel through all the worlds doing whatever they wish, and bodies are provided for them by Krishna to help them enjoy as much as they possibly can, as we are all parts of Him.</p>
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		<title>By: otis</title>
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		<dc:creator>otis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If there is only a right turn what kind of one way life is this. Where is free will without the opposing left turn? And although pain is not needed to feel love it sure defines love with the knowing of what is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is only a right turn what kind of one way life is this. Where is free will without the opposing left turn? And although pain is not needed to feel love it sure defines love with the knowing of what is.</p>
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		<title>By: otis</title>
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		<dc:creator>otis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without what is not, what is is not. Has nothing to do with having to undergo one to be in the other. But it has all to do with existing. If all was perfect all of the time would we know any different? Again where is free will in &quot;what is&quot; if it is all the same without the relative. Think about it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without what is not, what is is not. Has nothing to do with having to undergo one to be in the other. But it has all to do with existing. If all was perfect all of the time would we know any different? Again where is free will in &#8220;what is&#8221; if it is all the same without the relative. Think about it</p>
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		<title>By: mothman777</title>
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		<dc:creator>mothman777</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 18:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought I had seen that expression somewhere before, and did not think to check out what you had actually said, but just did so today, and VAFANCULO! means &quot;GO FUCK YOUSELF!&quot;

Now we all know what a trollish attitude you have, why don&#039;t you just stop posting obscene insults that spoil the comment thread to the above article? 

I am sure that your obvious liking for inflicting eternal punishment on all who are not members of your particular criminal cult is the cause of your puerile little outburst, and you benefit nobody here by behaving like that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I had seen that expression somewhere before, and did not think to check out what you had actually said, but just did so today, and VAFANCULO! means &#8220;GO FUCK YOUSELF!&#8221;</p>
<p>Now we all know what a trollish attitude you have, why don&#8217;t you just stop posting obscene insults that spoil the comment thread to the above article? </p>
<p>I am sure that your obvious liking for inflicting eternal punishment on all who are not members of your particular criminal cult is the cause of your puerile little outburst, and you benefit nobody here by behaving like that.</p>
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		<title>By: luciano</title>
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		<dc:creator>luciano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 09:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[VAFANCULO!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>VAFANCULO!</p>
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